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victim of love
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: might as well be on mars because that's how far away i feel from you.
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| And it's not a good idea to tap on the side of the bowl. It might seem a friendly gesture to you, but you probably wouldn't like it if someone pounded on your window when they walked by. |
DAMMIT! i was doing that all the time!  you know i also had the fish bowl and fish on my coffee table. when i would relax i would stretch out my legs and put my feet up on top of the coffee table. as i would watch the fish quickly swim up, down, side to side within his fish bowl, i would get excited and rock my feet back and forth shaking he table and fish bowl creating a wavy atmosphere within the bowl. is this good? i have no life you know.
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| BTW, TVs are not a good place to set the bowl. It will warm up the water too much. |
anyhoo, water started to get on the table so i put the fish bowl on the tv to keep an eye on the fish while watching 'survivor.' should i move it? where should i put it? i want to be able to see it too you know! 
thanks for the information you guys.  |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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To: Inept EFLTrainer
Re: Your Brain
Dear Inept EFLTrainer:
I'm sorry you hijacked this thread to spew bitterness. I enjoy the OP's hobby very much so I contributed some very sound advice. I hope he enjoys his hobby as much as I enjoy the pet hobby.
In the past I have engaged you in two discussions, both concerned law. I like law and as I previous legal administrator, I've advanced quickly enough to retire early. I'm established and I perform very well in that field.
From those two experiences, I found I could not argue with you because you simply make things up and present them as fact. One incident concered a legal definition of "verbal assualt" and the other incident concerned the definiton of a chemical weapon. You communicate poorly and you give low quality discussions.
During the former argument you insisted a law was broken and then I asked you specifically which law that was and you could not produce any evidence what so ever other than your opinion. Nothing, no citation or news article. I told you then I could not accept that.
The latter incident was more recent and it concerned the legal definiton of a chemical weapon. I presented an interpretation of relevant international treaties and agreements, to wit international law. You refused to accept said definitons and then proceeded to create your own legal defintion and then you expected me to accept said defintion. Man, you got a fat head.
I like law because it can expose human truths. I like science because it can show universal truths. I don't like your company becuase you expsoe neither. Quite frankly, I'd be hesitant to deal with you in business or in life because you come across either as deranged or as a lair. Oh excuse me "liar". duh huh huh
Regards
dulouz |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| get excited and rock my feet back and forth |
You sound like the excitable sort, so I think moving the fish bowl off the table was probably a good thing. Accidents do happen. The TV will work if you put a thick towel under the fish bowl so the heat doesn't cook your fish.
The other thing I can suggest for a happy and healthy fish is to name it. Without a name, fish tend to get neurotic identity complexes. Bad enough in human teenagers, but a sad, sad sight to see in a fish. And do not make the mistake of giving a boy fish a girl's name or vice versa. Enough said.
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victim of love
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: might as well be on mars because that's how far away i feel from you.
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how can i tell if the fish is female or male? is this a stupid question?
is 'moby d*ic*k' a male name? is 'nemo' a female name? is 'flipper' gender neutral? any suggestions?
should i buy another fish to keep the 1 i got now company and possibly the occasional 'nookie' after fish play? what should i name it...the new fish that is? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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I just knew you were going to ask about this. Fish genders can be tricky. With guppies, it's easy. The boy fish does what boys everywhere do and the girl guppy makes babies. It's harder to tell with gold fish. I'll have to leave that to someone who doesn't embarrass as easily as I do.
One way around the problem is to buy one more fish. Chances are they will be of different genders. If not, well this is the 21st Century and we are enlightened about that sort of thing. One easy way to tell which fish is which gender is to wait till you have turned out the lights and given them some privacy. Then when you hear panting, etc. flip the light back on and see who is doing what to whom. It isn't a fool-proof method, but you might get an education.
Since you are the liberal sort who uses 'nooky' in a public forum, I would suggest you choose names of lovers, like Francesca and Paolo, or whoever. I would avoid Moby D*ck and Flipper. They were not fish, and there is considerable animosity between mammals and fish.
Fill the bowl so it has the largest surface possible exposed to air. Don't get too many fish or fish that are too big. Without an aerator, they can be starved for oxygen.
Changing the water: You can change about 1/3 of the water each week. This doesn't upset your fish too much. But sometimes you need to clean the bowl. That means you need something else to put your fish in while you clean out their home. Be careful to rinse the bowl well--don't leave detergent in the bowl.
Don't expose the bowl to direct sunlight. It will develop algae...and that's a bi-atch to get off. But lots of indirect sunlight is very good. The fish need some of it.
Good luck with your new hobby. Fish can be a lot of fun. They are really relaxing to watch.
PS: It is not advisable to drop your fish on the floor. Cover the bowl when you have tuna for supper. |
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victim of love
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: might as well be on mars because that's how far away i feel from you.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Since you are the liberal sort who uses 'nooky' in a public forum, I would suggest you choose names of lovers, like Francesca and Paolo, or whoever. I would avoid Moby D*ck and Flipper. They were not fish, and there is considerable animosity between mammals and fish. |
Ya-ta(girl fish) & victim of love(handsome assed boy fish)! 
Paris and Nicole? Romeo and Juliet? fried and raw?
what's in a name? |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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To: Inept EFLTrainer
Re: Your Brain
Dear Inept EFLTrainer:
I'm sorry you hijacked this thread to spew bitterness. I enjoy the OP's hobby very much so I contributed some very sound advice. I hope he enjoys his hobby as much as I enjoy the pet hobby.
In the past I have engaged you in two discussions, both concerned law. I like law and as I previous legal administrator, I've advanced quickly enough to retire early. I'm established and I perform very well in that field.
From those two experiences, I found I could not argue with you because you simply make things up and present them as fact. One incident concered a legal definition of "verbal assualt" and the other incident concerned the definiton of a chemical weapon. You communicate poorly and you give low quality discussions.
During the former argument you insisted a law was broken and then I asked you specifically which law that was and you could not produce any evidence what so ever other than your opinion. Nothing, no citation or news article. I told you then I could not accept that.
The latter incident was more recent and it concerned the legal definiton of a chemical weapon. I presented an interpretation of relevant international treaties and agreements, to wit international law. You refused to accept said definitons and then proceeded to create your own legal defintion and then you expected me to accept said defintion. Man, you got a fat head.
I like law because it can expose human truths. I like science because it can show universal truths. I don't like your company becuase you expsoe neither. Quite frankly, I'd be hesitant to deal with you in business or in life because you come across either as deranged or as a lair. Oh excuse me "liar". duh huh huh
Regards
dulouz |
You poor sad little man...
You were wrong on both counts cited above, but let's not *actually* hi-jack this thread to feed your ego, OK? |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| dulouz wrote: |
| In the past I have engaged you in two discussions, both concerned law. I like law and as I previous legal administrator, I've advanced quickly enough to retire early. I'm established and I perform very well in that field. |
Frankly, the way you use language I find that highly doubtful.
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| From those two experiences, I found I could not argue with you because you simply make things up and present them as fact. |
This factually incorrect.
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| You communicate poorly and you give low quality discussions. |
Now this is rich: "...give low quality discussions." And you expect me to believe you are successful in the field of law? Since when was extremely poor grammar and usage acceptable in a field where the correct use of the written word is so vital?
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| During the former argument you insisted a law was broken and then I asked you specifically which law that was and you could not produce any evidence what so ever other than your opinion. Nothing, no citation or news article. I told you then I could not accept that. |
Guess that link to the Supreme Court wasn't "legal" enough for you.
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| The latter incident was more recent and it concerned the legal definiton of a chemical weapon. I presented an interpretation of relevant international treaties and agreements, to wit international law. |
And I never argued with the definition. I stated quite simply that the article stated there may have been a modified version used that would qualify as a chemical weapon. Since we don't know one way or the other, neither is right or wrong. We were having a conversation based on supposition. Guess *that* never happened during your esteemed career?
I also stated that I don't give a rat's butt what the definition is, it is ridiculous not to call a phosphorus weapon a chemical weapon. That it is not on the list does not make it appropriate.
Additionally, another poster has recently posted an article in which other far more knowledgeable people than I state that the use of phosphorus is, at minimum, banned as used. You claimed it is not.
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| You refused to accept said definitons and then proceeded to create your own legal defintion and then you expected me to accept said defintion. Man, you got a fat head. |
I did not. I simply stated that phosphorus fits the definition, particularly if modified as it might have been so that it burned flesh but not clothes. No way an incindiary could do that.
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| I like law because it can expose human truths. |
You seem to have a very strange set of human truths to which you ascribe.
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| I like science because it can show universal truths. |
Dear lord....
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| I don't like your company becuase you expsoe neither. |
I think I expose your distorted, bizarre view of reality quite effectively.
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| Quite frankly, I'd be hesitant to deal with you in business or in life because you come across either as deranged or as a lair. Oh excuse me "liar". duh huh huh |
Sure. I lie all the time. Care to post one of my lies? Or do you simply not understand what an opinion is? You see, I understand it is your opinion that the current list of chemical weapons is sufficient. Apparently, your massive success in the field of law has left you unprepared to accept that a list might be incomplete and/or too limited and that other persons might believe it should be updated.
I also understand that you cannot entertain the idea that a U.S. Supreme Court case which clearly deals with a law on verbal assault proves that such laws either do or have existed. And that was all I was indicating with that post because some other poster had said no such concept exists, let alone laws. Ooops!
Following that, neither you nor anyone else posted anything to show such laws do not any longer exist, including that one. We do not know if it was written again and is currently on the books. In fact, the Supreme Court did not throw out that law based on there not being such a concept as verbal assault, it threw it out only because it was too broadly written. This obviously would indicate that a verbal assault statute written in such a manner that it could not be abused to infringe on protected speech would have been acceptable to the court. They even agreed that the cabbies behavior could have been prosecuted *if* the law had not been vulnerable to abuse.
Damn good thing you never made it into the courtroom. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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Right. Neither one of you would ever want to do that, would you? That would be beneath both of you fine upstanding netizens. |
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Ekuboko
Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| victim of love wrote: |
how can i tell if the fish is female or male? is this a stupid question?
is 'moby d*ic*k' a male name? is 'nemo' a female name? is 'flipper' gender neutral? any suggestions?
should i buy another fish to keep the 1 i got now company and possibly the occasional 'nookie' after fish play? what should i name it...the new fish that is? |
How about Beemo and No-me?
Or Mebo and Meno?
Or Momo and Beenee?
(sorry was just fiddling around with the syllables of your suggested names... quite fun!  ) |
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victim of love
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: might as well be on mars because that's how far away i feel from you.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| victim of love wrote: |
how can i tell if the fish is female or male? is this a stupid question?
is 'moby d*ic*k' a male name? is 'nemo' a female name? is 'flipper' gender neutral? any suggestions?
should i buy another fish to keep the 1 i got now company and possibly the occasional 'nookie' after fish play? what should i name it...the new fish that is? |
How about Beemo and No-me?
Or Mebo and Meno?
Or Momo and Beenee?
(sorry was just fiddling around with the syllables of your suggested names... quite fun! ) |
cool fish tags, Ekuboko. 
actually, i caved in and bought 5 more little guppies(W10,000) from the cute pet shop chick after trying to get 2 for free by acting mad about the first 2(W4,000) dying and blaming the store. i'm a sucker for a pretty face and wiggly tail. I also bought a much bigger fish bowl-aquarium(W125,000) for the gang.
so i got a family of fish now in a state-of-the-art fish bowl. water purifier pump plugged in and ultraviolet light water temperture modifier illumination keeping the little buggers cozy at night and bright within sight.
but where do i go from here? do i need help? |
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Ekuboko
Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Get some weed. Fish like weed.
And while you're at it, how's about a sunken ship and a water wheel? |
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