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[hypnotist]

Thought this was an interesting backdrop to the debates I've previously had on this issue.

[stat]

I'm sorry, it seems your OP is not sensationalist enough. Must try harder.

Good starting points include putting 'Islam' 'PC gone mad' and 'breakdown of civilisation as we know it' in the subject title.

ps no-one'll listen to The Grauniad. Try the Daily Mail, or CNN.

[bigverne]

Interesting article, although it does contain a number of highly suspect statements.

The study also says that immigration is not the reason for increased numbers of non-white Britons over the past decade,

Well, clearly it is one reason, although it may not be the only one

and that "white flight" from inner cities is another myth.

Which is why there are hardly any cockneys left in the East End.

Also, what exactly is their criteria for integration. They seem to assume that simply because the ethnic minority population of certain areas has increased, this means they are more 'mixed' and 'integrated'. I used to live in a fairly mixed area in London, and yet there was very little 'mixing' between the Asian and White communities. They rarely intermarried, and tended to keep to their own groups.

Dr Simpson also seems to jump to conclusions. He says that the riots in Lozells had more to do with poverty than racial tension, without explaining why similar riots have not taken place in all white areas with similar or worse levels of poverty.

[mithridates]

[bigverne]

Yeah, you know, like Dick Van Dyk.

[rapier]

If genuine integration is occurring in britain, rather than a muslim takeover, then I'm quite happy about it.

but is that really the case?I know many races have little problems merging, but how many muslims are marrying non muslims..how many muslims are converting to other religions freely, or deserting islam if they wish? Next to zero. No. Muslims are practically a separate species and determined to remain so.

[jaganath69]

[stat]

[bigverne]

Here is another article which demonstrates that real integration, in terms of intermarriage, is certainly not happening between the muslim and white community due to cultural barriers. A rather worrying article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/16/ncous16.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/16/ixhome.html

Ban Asian marriages of cousins, says MP

By Marco Giannangeli

Marriages between cousins should be banned after research showed alarming rates in defective births among Asian communities in Britain, a Labour MP said last night.

It is estimated that more than 55 per cent of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins, resulting in an increasing rate of genetic defects and high rates of infant mortality. The likelihood of unrelated couples having the same variant genes that cause recessive disorders are estimated to be 100-1. Between first cousins, the odds increase to as much as one in eight.

In Bradford, more than three quarters of all Pakistani marriages are believed to be between first cousins.

Now, if 75% of Pakistanis have a preference for marrying their own cousins, I seriously doubt many are marrying outside their own ethnic group in Bradford, which would lead one to believe that real integration is very unlikely indeed. But, still, every year, we allow thousands more, largely unskilled poor immigrants from the poorest, most backward parts of the subcontinent to arrive. Well, I guess they 'enrich' our rather bland society with their quaint cultural practices.

[The Bobster]

[jaganath69]

[dulouz]

.................................... VOTE BNP

[bucheon bum]

[hypnotist]

I'm guessing that the news item doesn't do justice to the actual report. I wonder if it's available...

I think, as others have said, intermarriage is a poor way to judge integration. Do the communities work together, eat and shop in the same places, and so on? Socialising and marriage is somewhat beyond that. How many people marry from outside of their county, never mind outside of their race?

[jaganath69]