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adventureman



Joined: 18 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:12 pm    Post subject: Questions for long-timers like "The Beaver" Reply with quote

Just curious, how do you usually feel when, upon meeting a Korean for the first time, and telling them how long you have been living in the country, you still get asked those stupid naive newbie questions? Annoyed? Or have you gotton so used to it by now that you are just totally indifferent?

When people ask you "why did you come to Korea?" do you usually say "to work at a hagwon and I liked it so I stayed" or do you stroke their egoes and gush over Korean culture, food, etc.?

Also, how do you usually respond when you get the whole "how long will you stay in Korea" thing? Do you just say "forever"?
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions for long-timers like "The Beaver" Reply with quote

What pisses me off more are the foreigner questions.

"Where are you from?"

Does it christing matter? One time I was with a group of Canadians and Australians and one American, and some dude wandered up to us and said "Are any of you from America?" I shoved the American in his direction and said "This guy is" and the rest of us ignored him.

"Where are the clubs all the Korean girls that are willing to do anal?" A common greeting in Hongdae.

"Can you tell me where Route 66 is?" I've got a better idea. How about you give me 6000 won and I run across the street to the 7-11 and buy you a Budweiser.

"All I've got is American cash." Maybe not a question, but still dumb as a brick. I like to offer them an extortion-high exchange rate.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the guff about "do you like spicey food?" tickles me. K-food is about as spicey as my arse compared to Indian food, which I've eaten considerable amounts of in my time.

(not that I'm an old-timer at all)
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you still get asked those stupid naive newbie questions?


I'm 2 1/2 months into my 11th year here. And no, I'm not married to a Korean.

And yes, those stupid newbie questions can be annoying, especially if I'm tired. I try to keep in mind that he/she is probably excited and is definitely nervous speaking a foreign language...so is having a hard time coming up with decent conversational questions. When I'm rested and in a good mood I just go along with it and try to move things along into more interesting conversational territory. When I'm tired, I bite my tongue and give the shortest answer possible and try to get out of the situation asap.

A lot of it is their personality. If they are cute about asking stupid questions they get a lot more tolerance from me than if they are just boring.

The ones I find the absolute worst are the mothers who want me to talk to their kid while I'm trapped on the subway. I'm not much interested in talking to any kid in any language, much less one who speaks Konglish at his mother's behest.

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"why did you come to Korea?"


I don't see a difference in your choices. I stay because I like it much more than I dislike it. Isn't that stroking their ego? I don't gush, but I say I enjoy meeting the people because most of them are very nice to me, I enjoy some of the food but not all of it, and I enjoy my lifestyle here. What I enjoy most is my job. I love teaching and in most of my jobs I've had terrific students to work with.

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"how long will you stay in Korea"


I have a standard answer for this one. I will stay in Korea as long as I enjoy it. I don't have a plan to either stay or go. I'll go when I'm ready. (I thought I was ready last winter and went home. Eight months later I'm back here at work in a new job.)
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going on 10 years, I still get the same questions I got when I first came here- but these days, they ask them in Korean

If a person comes up and asks me a plethora of questions, I tend to answer them in Korean, it tends to show people how long you've been here.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not as long here as some, but yes, on first meeting, the same questions can crop up. But if you get pi$$ed off at that, you'd probably get pi$$ed off being asked - did you have good flight? was the food good on the plane? was the traffic bad? - how was the weather? - at home ...
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steroidmaximus



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, sometimes this does get to me. These statements in particular, especially after they find out I've been here 6 years:

"oh, you like kimchi?"
"you use chopsticks well"
"you eat Korean food?"
"oh, you speak Korean!" (after saying only hello or thank you)
"do you know (insert common Koreana thing here, such as soju or sam gyuep sal)?"
"you understand Koreans well"
etc etc etc

hello, did you listen to me? I've been here 6 years! It's like they expect you to be stupid and completely ignorant of their culture, then are surprised when you disprove this theory on even a most basic level.

Forcing their kids to come talk to you or say hello is the pinnacle of ignorance IMO, the equivalent of letting the kids pet the monkey at the zoo. Most annoying.

Most days I ignore all of this and just continue on with whatever I'm doing, but other times I just want to tell em off loudly and rudely. Luckily, that impulse rarely wins. . .
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been here a little over 1 year, but in the first 2 months I feel like heard all the questions about 5 times. let's see, what are some other ones?

do you know (insert korean athelete in a league in your home country)?

do you like korean girl? (this is almost never said plurally. perhaps they mean one specific girl. who is this girl and why is she so damn likable?)


i'm too lazy to think of more. i suppose it's all about patience and understanding. i mean, I've yelled Konnichiwa at japanese people on the street before, I've asked a spanish person "so, how about penelope cruz?" and other dumb stuff like that. so what right do i have to get all snooty about silly korean questions? yeah, some defy all logic, but a lot of people make conversation on auto-pilot. they're not so interested in you, they're just trying avoid an awkward silence.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Forcing their kids to come talk to you or say hello is the pinnacle of ignorance IMO, the equivalent of letting the kids pet the monkey at the zoo. Most annoying.


That's going a little over the top, surely? The kids' parents at least aren't showing xenophobia by getting their kid to some and say hi.
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it when parents made their kids speak english to me.

Let's face it, if these parents weren't paying hand over fist so that Junior could learn how to say "I'm fine thankyou, how are you?" I'd have no friends over here.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swiss James wrote:
I like it when parents made their kids speak english to me.

Let's face it, if these parents weren't paying hand over fist so that Junior could learn how to say "I'm fine thankyou, how are you?" I'd have no friends over here.

James, with all due respect, you're still a nyoob in this area. Teachers, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the standard expression:

Foreigner: Hello? (or Welcome! or Can you help me find my hotel? or Do you speak any English? ... It really doesn't matter what this line is.)

Korean: Finethankyou,andyou? (The "?" is just there for the sake of appearance. They don't really expect or want an answer to that.)
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:


Foreigner: Hello? (or Welcome! or Can you help me find my hotel? or Do you speak any English? ... It really doesn't matter what this line is.)

Korean: Finethankyou,andyou? (The "?" is just there for the sake of appearance. They don't really expect or want an answer to that.)


mmmm, basic!
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My current favorite among the non-English speaking teachers at my school is the old geezer, Young-Duck. When I say 'Good morning' he answers with "Thank you. And you?" I don't bother to correct him.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
My current favorite among the non-English speaking teachers at my school is the old geezer, Young-Duck. When I say 'Good morning' he answers with "Thank you. And you?" I don't bother to correct him.


I am gonna regret this but Young-duk's father is not called Kwak by any chance?
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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