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andrew



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: ..... Reply with quote

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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: adult Business English class wants games! Reply with quote

andrew wrote:
Today when the class was over I was asked by the employees to provide "games" to play. I was a bit surprised by this, as I expected this kind of request would not have been made by adults between 25-50 years old.

I would say that Games are enjoyed by any demographic. My parents (in their early 60s) play games with their friends regularly so I don't see why your Korean students wouldn't want to play them.

You may want to find some language oriented games rather than monopoly that will actually reinforce what you are doing with the class....
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forgesteel



Joined: 30 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: adult Business English class wants games! Reply with quote

andrew wrote:
I teach a class in Business English for the employees of a company. I found a good text and the class seems to be going well. The director of the company wasn't in the office this week because of a trip he needed to make (he's in the class too).

Today when the class was over I was asked by the employees to provide "games" to play. I was a bit surprised by this, as I expected this kind of request would not have been made by adults between 25-50 years old.

So next week I am thinking of taking my Monopoly board in to play, but the big boss will be back then and I'm not sure how he will react, especially since I bought the game in Japan and there are Japanese characters all over it.

Would you do it?


Do the games. But first I'd do a little research on the topic to save yourself some time. You don't want to make a bunch of games that they all hate. That would be an unnecessary waste of energy. Ask them what sort of games they had in mind. Ask them open-ended questions when collecting game ideas, and assume nothing is impossible or unrealistic at this stage. Just collect ideas from them. Then do a little research on the net one weekend, and you should be able to pretty easily find a couple games a week with fairly minimal effort.

Monopoly is not a good idea, unless you can find an English version of it.

Tongue twisters are game-like, though not really games. It loosens people up, literally and figuratively, which is what one needs in learning environments, especially high-stress learning environments where people's supposed dignity is at stake (adults tend to NOT grow up in these regards, in fact they seem to regress).

Learning a new language throws us back to the age of 3 and 4, when we were largely helpless, dependent beings. It's scary. That's okay. Scary is cool and fun. Demeaning and stressful is not fun or cool, though, and that is your job. You are there to be a speech coach, a drama tutor, an inspirational trainer, etc. etc. Stop thinking in terms of 'teacher.'

Games help us to relax. Don't be surprised about the preference your students show for games.
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Ody



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one word,

Clue




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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the subject line, I thought this would be a thread about teaching English for the "Adult Business" industry.

They've got to learn the dirty talk from somewhere, ya know?
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Games at that age are great, even better if you've got a prize for the winners. I've seen men in their 50s, execs of the company saying "neener neener!" to the other execs because they won a hershey's kiss.

Monopoly might be good- but a game that they could finish within the class time would probably be better.

If you'll play in teams, make sure you understand the pecking order in the class when dividing them up. Can't have the boss losing face in front of his underlings and all that.

English Jeopardy has worked rather well for me. Categories like opposites, past tense, idioms, Korean trivia, translations(you say the korean word) etc
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One game that has a high language content and needs little teacher preparation time is a version of the old standard "Categories." You can play it individually, but for generating English talk I like to split the class into 3 or 4 small teams - more than 2 teams works best for scoring purposes.
This is what you do:
split the class into teams
explain the term 'categories' and the rules of the game
1] teacher writes a category on the board - start with an easy one e.g 'fruit' 'countries' 'animals' etc.
2] each team works quietly and quickly [stopwatch] to compile a list of 5 [or, whatever] items from the nominated category
3] at the end of the allocated time the teacher writes everyone's list up on the whiteboard. Each item written down wins the team 1 point, if a team has written an item that no other team has mentioned then they win 2 points - this encourages the teams to stretch their lexicon rather than just jot down 'cat' 'dog' 'pig' etc.
4] as the players get used to the format make the categories a little more obscure [things you will find in a Spanish restaurant] or task specific [for a sales team from Hyundai use categories like 'car parts' or 'things you will find on an executive's desk]
5] when the players start to get competitive, change the rules so the 1 minute time allowance is abandoned in favour of the first team writing 5 words being able to stop the game - other teams will then be unable to earn 5 points for 5 items.
This is a really fun game and I have often been surprised by some of the vocab' that has been generated from it. The native speaker version of "Categories" makes the players compile lists of categories [eg 'pizza toppings'] using a particular initial letter, this might work for very advanced classes, but I have found it is just as much fun without the initial letter rule.


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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One game that I played when I taught a business class was *guess what we've been saying about you*.

Basically, someone in the class gets sent out of the room, whilst the others mention a few *bad* things about this person. We settle on one thing about this person and when the person comes back in the room, he/she has to ask question to his classmates about what has been said.

It's fun and it gets them talking - it's also great for an early morning class because it wakes everyone up!
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ubum



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew, what text are you using? I have a similar class in an identical situation. Just curious what book you think is good.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are thousands of ESL games to play that can be used to practice/reinforce the grammar point of the day. Just google 'ESL games'.

This is probably what your students meant. A little competition for a meaningless prize goes a long way to bringing some laughs to a classroom.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: adult Business English class wants games! Reply with quote

andrew wrote:
I teach a class in Business English for the employees of a company. I found a good text and the class seems to be going well. The director of the company wasn't in the office this week because of a trip he needed to make (he's in the class too).

Today when the class was over I was asked by the employees to provide "games" to play. I was a bit surprised by this, as I expected this kind of request would not have been made by adults between 25-50 years old.

So next week I am thinking of taking my Monopoly board in to play, but the big boss will be back then and I'm not sure how he will react, especially since I bought the game in Japan and there are Japanese characters all over it.

Would you do it?


Of course I'd do it. I've been amazed to walk into a grade 3 HS class (mostly 18 in western years) where 80% of them are asleep and see how making a game of something can suddenly get everyone's attention. While you're at it, bring along a bunch of candies as prizes. See if you can get them wrestling on the floor over a candy.

(Actually I don't usually give out candy but I brought along a plastic bag of them for Halloween. One of my grade 3 classes almost tore it apart. The next week I brought a plastic bag of magnets for pinning things to the board. In a grade 3 class when I had my back turned, writing on the board, one girl snuck up to the front desk and reached in trying to steal a candy. Was she ever disappointed to pull out a clump of magnets. *Never* underestimate the infantile or nature of Koreans and how this can be used to your advantage when teaching.)
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather use games with adults than middle schoolers. Getting the latter, some of them at least, interested in games is jolly difficult. Adults will be motivated, I assume. Games kids' stuff? Not necessarily, I say.
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a few "interview games" with my kids and in the smaller groups they worked really well.

1. A plane has just crashed into the sea, the skill of the pilot meant that instead of all the people dying 8 survived. The plane is sinking, slowly. There are 8 survivors and only room for 4 in the lifeboat. Who stays and who goes? In 30mins the plane sinks and they all die if you havent decided.

People vary (u can google for this) but typically you have

1. Pilot, unhappy and had a drinking problem (potential cause for the crash? This is implied not stated). Ex-military. Injured badyl

2. Co-pilot (around 40). Has a little sailing experience and is a certed first aider.

3/4/5. Family, mom dad and daughter. Dad is usually something "good" vicar for example, Mom typically "bad" (vapid, no job, spends lots etc.)

6. Old man (80s) injured. Recently discovered cure to AIDS/Cancer, and its mainly stored in his head

7. Young girl, brilliant but in a wheelchair. High IQ, in a prestigious uni.

8. Rebel, ex con but misunderstood.

Their answers are really interesting.

Exercise 2:

Your on a desert island/crashed in northern canada and have 10/15/20 items, order them in priority.

Google for loads of these surivival games. This one is a bit more tricky but if you have small groups monitor to ensure they discuss in English.

As these are often used as teambuilding or interview excersises then u can do them with a clean conscience in the business environment.

Soz about gram/spelling i'm in a hurry.
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blunder, great idea for talking activity.

What I did with adults who were high enough was play a "modified" version of I have never. Maybe you remember this game as a drinking game. It's really easy to change into something more appropriate for the classroom. Simply give some form of markers to the students (I also used fake money, boy they loved that) Then when the student says I have never ...... the other students give their marker to the student if they had done it. The winner is the one with the most markers. It can be very fun.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Andrew!

Try asking them to bring their yut sticks and baduk boards and teach you to play.
That should be good English practice for them.
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