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loki82



Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Solar New Year? Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me what the deal is with Solar New Year? I mean in respects to exactly when it is - I've seen conflicting info on two separate 2006 calendars. One said that Jan 30th and 31st were both paid holidays, and the other said only the 30th. What's the deal?

While I'm at it, does anyone know where I could find a complete list of national holidays in Korea? Looking to find some good news after realizing that this year Chusok, Christmas, and both damn New Years fell on weekends...

Loki
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The solar new year is January 1st as usual.

It's the lunar new year that changes from year to year, and is at the end of January this year.

Don't confuse the Korean word "solnal" with solar. Surprised
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loki82



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit, I knew I'd get those two mixed up.

Probably a redundant question, but just to be sure... 'VanIslander' = Vancouver Islander?
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My students get the two mixed up all the time. Laughing

loki82 wrote:
'VanIslander' = Vancouver Islander?

Good guess! Born in Burnaby but early formative years until age ten on the island.

Plus I'm on a Korean island now, and have pined for a recreational mini-van.
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loki82



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, I'm Burnaby norn too! Formative years were in Coquitlam though - not quite as exotic as Van Island, though I did spend many a-summer in the rural wilds of Willis Point, on Brentwood Bay.
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jacl



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never hear do "solar new year". Maybe that would be the Gregorian Calendar. I'm talking out of my ass a little bit. I just thought that there was "Lunar New Year/Chinese New Year" and New Year by the Gregorian calendar in western culture. Not totally positive.
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forgesteel



Joined: 30 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:07 am    Post subject: secular new year Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
The solar new year is January 1st as usual.

It's the lunar new year that changes from year to year, and is at the end of January this year.

Don't confuse the Korean word "solnal" with solar. Surprised


The secular new year is Jan. 1. The solar new year is the vernal equinox, which varies by a few days, but is generally on March 20-23, at least in the Northern Hemisphere.

The secular new year uses the solar calendar (of 365 days), hence the confusion.

wikipedia says:
>The New Year is an event that happens when a culture celebrates the end of one year and the beginning of the next. Cultures that measure yearly calendars all have New Year celebrations.

Hence, you must specifiy which culture you are talking about before you get a clear answer on the question of "when is the new year?"
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loki82



Joined: 25 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks forgesteel, that straightened things out.

Now that we've got that all figured out, can anyone answer the second part of my question - specifically, exactly when is Solar New Year in 2006, and which days are counted as stat holidays?
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Ekuboko



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loki82 wrote:
specifically, exactly when is Solar New Year in 2006, and which days are counted as stat holidays?

Sat 28th-Mon 30th January.
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekuboko wrote:
loki82 wrote:
specifically, exactly when is Solar New Year in 2006, and which days are counted as stat holidays?

Sat 28th-Mon 30th January.

That's the lunar, not the solar new year.
Rolling Eyes
Never mind.
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Ekuboko



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Ekuboko wrote:
loki82 wrote:
specifically, exactly when is Solar New Year in 2006, and which days are counted as stat holidays?

Sat 28th-Mon 30th January.

That's the lunar, not the solar new year.
Rolling Eyes
Never mind.

Oh, whoops, sorry, I wasn't reading properly. Embarassed Those dates are for Lunar New Year, I know...

As for the New Year's Day 2006 that occurs on January 1st - we don't get any extra days off. Mad
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loki82



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on, that's all cleared up then! Basically my 'Morning Glory' calendar had Jan. 30th and 31st marked as being paid holidays, but that seemed inconsistent with other calendars I'd seen. I was just clutching to the vain hope that it wasn't just a typo...
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joe_doufu



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sun is the bright yellow ball of nuclear fire that appears in the sky during the day time. The moon is the ball of stone (or is it cheese?) that sometimes reflects white sunlight in the evening.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The sun is the bright yellow ball of nuclear fire that appears in the sky during the day time. The moon is the ball of stone (or is it cheese?) that sometimes reflects white sunlight in the evening.


However, if you saw the moon come up last night, just before 6:30, you would have noticed that it was as yellow as a slice of Velveeta. Quite nice.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: secular new year Reply with quote

forgesteel wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
The solar new year is January 1st as usual.

It's the lunar new year that changes from year to year, and is at the end of January this year.

Don't confuse the Korean word "solnal" with solar. Surprised


The secular new year is Jan. 1. The solar new year is the vernal equinox, which varies by a few days, but is generally on March 20-23, at least in the Northern Hemisphere.

The secular new year uses the solar calendar (of 365 days), hence the confusion.

wikipedia says:
>The New Year is an event that happens when a culture celebrates the end of one year and the beginning of the next. Cultures that measure yearly calendars all have New Year celebrations.

Hence, you must specifiy which culture you are talking about before you get a clear answer on the question of "when is the new year?"

Yes, because Solnal NEVER falls on Rosh Hashanah!
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