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Zark

Joined: 12 May 2003 Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Some people in the province where I live are concerned because they have not received the form, but yet hear from others that they must report - or get grilled.
If EVERYONE is to do it "eventually" - does that mean by the end of December - or by the end of next year or ?
What are people to do - if they don't get the notice? |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| So what does all of this mean for someone who will arrive in, say, January, with an E-2? Should such a person bring his diploma with him? |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, E2 is a general ESL teacher's visa. You're thinking of another visa, which you obviously don't have. |
Actually it's a general language teaching visa. Japanese teachers from Japan also get an E2 |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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HD~
As a general rule-of-thumb, it is always a good idea to bring your deploma with you when travelling to Korea so that if you change your job, you don't need a notarized copy.
Or....
You can bring your notarized copies and show your diploma to back it up.
I have a question; When a person submits the form, can they also bring another paper from the MOE telling immigrations that the degree was ALREADY checked and verified?
I had to go to the SMOE in Jungno 5-ga back in 2002 for the same purpose we are doing now. But at that time, it was for Korean teachers (I was the only foreigner, minus the Japanese teachers, at my institute.). At that time, I had to go with my old wangjangnim also.
The cool thing about the verification process then was that after it was checked, I got alot of the same benefits as the Koreans got; 1. Tax returns back at the beginning of the fiscal year 2. Pension statements
I wrote about that after I went there, I'm surprised alot of people didn't pick up on it at that time...hmmmm......  |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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White Tiger,
There is an annual required teacher training program for hogwan foreign language teachers and for wonjangnims. It is not a "catch and release" program. I think that "dead drop" was a "dead giveaway" of a joke. |
When I worked at hakwons I never heard of this or attended one. When did this become "required"? Looks like I got out of the hakwon scene just in time.  |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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This degree check thing is gonna get messy.
Did mine, its simple enough. But reading above it seems notification hasnt been complete. Immi knows where we are -- why on earth didnt they do direct mailings? How many have forms lost or ignored on inept directors' desks?
Next year theres going to be a spate of visa renewal denials for noncompliance. I wonder what recourse the uninformed will have. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder what recourse the uninformed will have? |
None.
The way Koreans are, they will blame the uninformed for not inquiring about it during the period, thus making an excuse for the visa denial. If the uninformed teacher asks his boss why he didn't get the form, the boss can simply say that the form was forwarded to the teacher and the teacher simply forgot or disregarded it, saving his own arze
Or as others have put it, they most likely will do actual background checks on those that don't show up, then go after those no-shows and either ask them why they didn't show up at the immigration office during the prescribed time or simply arrest the ones whose degrees are infact faked.
But, still I have a picture in my mind about the mass illegal migrant round-up in late 2003, they only netted a small meager percentage of the illegal migrants. And knowing that it wasn't going to work, they offered amnesty for those that came forward (which netted an extra 15,000 more illegals), forcing those who wanted to come forward to stay hidden. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| If you hold an F2-1 visa, call your local Immigration office to remind them that you don't need to validate your diploma with them because matters of your employment does not concern them anymore. |
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freewill
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject: A case study of how a paper containing good ideas... |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Actually, E2 is a general ESL teacher's visa. You're thinking of another visa, which you obviously don't have. |
Actually it's a general language teaching visa. Japanese teachers from Japan also get an E2 |
Of course, but there aren't many Japanese teachers in this forum, are there? |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| but there aren't many Japanese teachers in this forum, are there? |
No,
But I did go to immigrations a few times with the non-English speaking foreign staff to get our E2 visas.
I do know from talking to them that they have to jump through alot more hoops to get their E2 visas than us English speakers.
But in some ways, these extra hoops should be used in the beginning of the immigration process (which is my original argument to begin with) because it would prevent all this confusion. |
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polarbearbrad
Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:25 am Post subject: |
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My employer informed me today that my school, (Incheon), will require all teachers to give up a day of our Christmas holiday to do this.
I felt like slugging him in the face.
I told him this is a scare tactic. I have no intention of coming back here, forget the school, the country I mean so why should I bother?
Well, here is why...you are just never sure what those morons at immigration are going to do. They are more inclined to arrest first and ask questions later.
I recommend you go. Take EVERYTHING because you don't want to have to make this pain in the ass trip once, so twice because you forgot something would be even worse.
Looks like it is all of us, so fine let's just go and create a massive amount of paperwork for them. Who cares if they don't have trees here anymore after this, more money for Canadian paper manufacturers.
Cheers,
PBB |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| I have still heard nothing about this. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:12 am Post subject: |
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GwangjuBoy~
To know more about it, just go to the immigration website to get the lowdown on the whole deal.
PPB~ that f'ing sux!
------On another note, is there a mass group going to the Mok-dong office either this week or next week?
Why don't we make it a day trip, go there to hand in our stuff and then go for some lunch or something?
What do you say??~? |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:01 pm Post subject: my thoughts |
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Degree Verification
If information beyond degree attainment is required, a written and signed student release must accompany the request.
Requests can be processed using one of the following options using your own request form or by completing a verification form:
Fax – Please expect a 2-3 business day processing period once we have received the request. Also include the address/fax number that the request should be forwarded to once complete.
FAX: 408-924-2050
Attention: Registrar Services - Verifications
Mail - Mail the degree verification form to the following. Please expect a 2-3 business day processing period once we have received the request. Also include the address/fax number that the request should be forwarded to once complete.
San José State University
Registrar Services - Verifications
One Washington Square
San Jose, CA 95192-1009
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Enrollment Verification
If information beyond enrollment/attendance is required, a written and signed student release must accompany the request.
Requests can be processed using one of the following options using your own request form or by completing a verification form:
In Person [Recommended option] - Students can visit the Admissions and Records counter located in the Student Services Center with picture ID to request an Enrollment Verification form for the current or past term(s).
Fax - Please expect a 2-3 business day processing period once we have received the request. Also include the address/fax number that the request should be forwarded to once complete.
FAX: 408-924-2050
Attention: Registrar Services - Verifications
Mail - Please expect a 2-3 business day processing period once we have received the request. Also include the address/fax number that the request should be forwarded to once complete.
San José State University
Registrar Services - Verifications
One Washington Square
San Jose, CA 95192-1009
San José State University
Verifications
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