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Snowmeow · Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Location: pc room

K-1 WGP 2005 Predictions?

I personally hope that Remy destroys Hong Man. Most of the Koreans I have asked believe that Hong Man is going to win.

Joseph Fitzgerald · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

When is the fight?

manlyboy · Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:03 am Post subject:

Suprisingly uneventful fight. I don't know why Choi looked so disappointed by the decision. He did nothing to earn a win. Made a few charges, but didn't hurt Bonjasky at all.

Confused Canadian · Joined: 21 Jan 2003

I can understand why he was disappointed...he probably figured he had at a 50/50 chance of picking up the win.

Quite frankly, neither of them did enough for a win. Hong-Man kept throwing punches that Remy blocked easily, and Remy kept kicking Hong-Man's right leg (to no effect). Neither was able to hurt the other. Neither dominated the fight. The judges may as well have just flipped a coin to determine the winner...

Snowmeow · Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Location: pc room

Remy had said earlier on television that he should be ashamed if he doesn't beat Hong Man Choi, and after the fight he looked a bit rattled that he was so ineffective against a fighter that he perceived as unskilled.

Against the sumo, Remy had kicked his lower leg several times, I think making him lower his gaurd to protect the leg and opening the opportunity for a kick to the head. Seemed to be the plan but it looked like the Korean trainers had given Choi a crash course in defending against kicks.

Harpeau · Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC

Watched the fight. Dunno how Rwmi won, really?! Confused

Must have taken the judges out for whores & hashish in Amsterdamn. That's the only thing that makes sense to me.

I thought they could have gone an extra round or two, but maybe the judges wanted to end it early and head on up to the panchinko machines.

manlyboy · Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:55 am Post subject:

It's called a points decision people. Remy's shots landed; Choi's didn't.

anyway · Joined: 22 Oct 2005

Amen, manlyboy. I don't see how the Hong-man expects to win a fight when he doesn't do anything but stand in the middle of the ring and wait for people to hit him. I don't understand the K-1 scoring very well, but I know it is not based on the amount of pain inflicted (as some here seem to believe). The Hong-man surely goes in for that kind of scoring because he likes to shrug after a punch or kick to show that it didn't hurt him, except on the judges scorecard. It's amazing that he expected to be handed the win as he was in the Seoul 05 against the Thai who clearly beat him in the first three rounds as well as the extra round. Musashi got the break this time. Wonder why...

gypsyfish · Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul

I'm glad Remy beat Hong Man, but I think it took a toll on him because he seemed out of it in the match against the other Dutch fighter, Semmy.

And I thought that the Japanese, Musashi, lost against the Russian in his first match. It looked like the fix was in on that one.

ForceOne · Joined: 25 Aug 2005

manlyboy's got it right...Hong man was definately limping after the fight, and it was his his LEFT leg, not his right...I was surprised he made it 3 rounds, but he didn't do ANYTHING to win the fight...
I was surprised at how tired Sefo looked in his fight...
The Japanese guy took some good shots, and has incredible stamina, but definately did not deserve to win that fight, or even make it to the 4th round IMO...where was the fight again? oh yeah...
Anybody see the young 21 yr old cocky SOB after the first round? tall and skinny but kicked the older guy in the dome and he was lights out--he was definately dazed and confused...

Snowmeow · Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Location: pc room

I saw the young skinny guy. He really milked that run way for all its worth, even backtracking to prolong the trip. Quite a fighter though - very fast.

philthy · Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Location: Incheon

I think the K-1 had better wake up before they get the same reputation as professional (heavyweight) boxing for "fixed" fights and biased judging. Yes, Remy clearly beat Choi, but Karaev beat Musashi in 3. He even won the extra round, but of course the Japanese guy "had" to win, since the fight was in Japan. I don't know where the judges were from (probably Japan - and France).
Also, the semi-final had two dudes from Holland in it, so one was going to the final regardless. It looked to me that they fixed Semmy to win early to save himself for the final. Remy wasn't hurt by Choi nor was he punished by Semmy but went down.
Then, in the finals you have a well-rested Semmy. He probably would have beaten anybody anyways, but it looked a little suspicious.

anyway · Joined: 22 Oct 2005

I watched almost the whole thing, but I didn't see Aerts come back after his first round win over Le Banner. My question is, why did they have those two extra fights? AND Why did the tall Brazilian advance to fight Musashi (instead of Aerts)? Was Aerts too injured to continue?
Anyway, the previous match between Semmy and the Brazilian was much better than the final on Saturday. I can't believe it ended in the first round with a knee. I think Semmy might be one of the smartest fighters of all of them. He really adapts his style well to the opponent.

Snowmeow · Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Location: pc room

I've just watched the Musashi vs Karaev fight again and I am convinced that it should not have even gone to the 4th round. Karaev had already won the fight, both by shots landed and by dishing out punishment. I suspect that the judges had penalized the Russian on a couple of instances for head butts and a low blow, particularly in the final round. It was definitely one of the most action packed fights of the whole tournament.