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chi-chi
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TheUrbanMyth
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| I'm not sure what's the problem here. Schools will want as much as they can get. It's not immoral or illegal for them to ask eight classes a day. It may be inconsiderate, but hardly wrong. Let's look at this rationally. You teach 7 40 min classes a day. I teach six 50 min classes. So 7*40=280 minutes. 6*50=300 minutes. You have fewer working hours and minutes total. As for the signed statement, that's not immigration's business how long you work at the school. That sounds like your school's BS. Under no circumstances sign anything like that without an immigration officer's DIRECT say-so. The only way I could see immigration mixed up in something like that, was if your old school's boss filed some kind of complaint. |
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chi-chi
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 7:23 am Post subject: |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| it's like a friggin chess game. they tried for a shot at your nads but you countered. then they went away for a bit, until peace in the valley hagwon is a little too much taken for granted. when they figure you don't want to leave, and are happy. then they'll go for your nads again. then counter hard, or leave. it's korean custom among males to endure and endure and then 'krakatoa!'. the hierarchy is always present, wanting to 'all fall down'. so i guess from time to time it does, and it's 'all good'. |
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humanuspneumos
Joined: 08 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:52 pm Post subject: I know what you're saying |
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I know what you're saying about number of classes. The mathematical formula of adding up minutes taught doesn't apply simply because a different class requires different preparation and that preparation can translate into more time and more spent brain cells that you'll never see again.
I taught at a school where I was doing 12 classes a day- back-to-back (No break for 6 and 6). Ouch!! Each class was unique and lesson repetition was rare. Sure the kids were cute- but - I was dying.
Also- I find that the "be on site" philosophy takes all joy out of hogwan teaching. You might as well join EPIK and get the vacation.
You can put on steel-toed boots and go two ways with this:
1. Become as tough as nails and do as many more months as you can to bank some cash for plan "B." Envision yourself as an ESl tree-planter kicking the dirt, spading the soil, thrusting as many of those tiny little trees as possible into the ground. And keeping the rows straight. (When the going gets tough the tough get going- attitude)
2. Become as tough as nails and fight it all- get fired- be left with months and months on the contract where you are sitting in another country waiting for it all to be over. Perhaps you can sit in Thailand for a while and bleed away all your funds.
You can put on the politicians hat and never be sure what the out-come will be and live in the yellow zone for a while (high-stress negotiation zone: something like the "Road Map to Peace") and end-up somewhere in the middle of the owner's happiness.
When a situation becomes completely meaningless so becomes the signature with foggy eyes. However, after you bank lots of cash it's not like you can't create your own light at the end of the tunnel- you can set the length of where the tunnel ends as you move along with bank-book in hand and your eyes on the numbers. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Just hang in there until you've got enough cash and you can always leave..Its never nice working for someone who you feel is taking advantage. What is it with school directors? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| chi-chi wrote: |
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***Will sing, dance, and do gymnastics to go to a country where I own my work visa*** |
Japan is one country that lets you do that (own your work visa, not the gymnastics thing)  |
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chi-chi
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| I'm not sure what's the problem here. Schools will want as much as they can get. It's not immoral or illegal for them to ask eight classes a day. It may be inconsiderate, but hardly wrong. Let's look at this rationally. You teach 7 40 min classes a day. I teach six 50 min classes. So 7*40=280 minutes. 6*50=300 minutes. You have fewer working hours and minutes total. As for the signed statement, that's not immigration's business how long you work at the school. That sounds like your school's BS. Under no circumstances sign anything like that without an immigration officer's DIRECT say-so. The only way I could see immigration mixed up in something like that, was if your old school's boss filed some kind of complaint. |
I'd be willing to bet that you prepare a lot less for 6 - 50 minute classes than 7 - 40's. It's up to you, but I find that in most of my 50 min classes, the last 10 minutes is a waste of time anyway. Perhaps the hagwan realizes this and has taken steps to try and make your day more productive. I sure wouldn't want to do it though. 6 is enough for me.
As for things being illegal or immoral, well all I can say is how moral is it to have the teacher run off his/her feet. Those people in the last class of the day are not getting the same as those in the first class. People who say it makes no difference how many classes you teach have no clue how much energy it takes to "properly" prepare and teach a class. It's not just a matter of showing up. It's all about being ready, willing and not so exausted that you can't even concentrate.
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
I'd be willing to bet that you prepare a lot less for 6 - 50 minute classes than 7 - 40's. It's up to you, but I find that in most of my 50 min classes, the last 10 minutes is a waste of time anyway. Perhaps the hagwan realizes this and has taken steps to try and make your day more productive. I sure wouldn't want to do it though. 6 is enough for me.
As for things being illegal or immoral, well all I can say is how moral is it to have the teacher run off his/her feet. Those people in the last class of the day are not getting the same as those in the first class. People who say it makes no difference how many classes you teach have no clue how much energy it takes to "properly" prepare and teach a class. It's not just a matter of showing up. It's all about being ready, willing and not so exausted that you can't even concentrate.
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It takes a lot less energy when you are truly prepared beforehand. Teaching in a school back in the West gives you all the experience you will ever need. Six or seven classes, it doesn't matter. I am capable of teaching all my classes with energy and flair.
Maybe if more teachers stopped having late nights, their energy levels would improve greatly. It's all about being ready, willing and getting enough sleep, food, and exercise so that you can concentrate.
Now I am really wondering. How do you handle "intensive courses" during vacation? Don't you get more classes then? |
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