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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:02 am Post subject: Parents fight law banning mobile phones in exams |
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Parents question constitutionality of law banning mobile phones in exams
A parents' group said yesterday that it will file a petition with the Constitutional Court against the Education Law over the disqualification of about 30 students for carrying mobile phones and other banned electronic devices during the state-run college test last week.
By Lee Joo-hee, Korea Herald (November 29, 2005)
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2005/11/29/200511290009.asp |
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tzechuk
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Haven't read the article yet, but is the article really dated the 29th November 2005???
They are ahead of themselves, aren't they??!!! |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Haven't read the article yet, but is the article really dated the 29th November 2005??? They are ahead of themselves, aren't they??!!! |
Welcome to Korea. More precisely, welcome to reading the Korea Herald.
Korea the land where journalists experience time travel. |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| tzechuk wrote: |
Haven't read the article yet, but is the article really dated the 29th November 2005???
They are ahead of themselves, aren't they??!!! |
maybe your thinking the article is about the middle and highschool finals that are coming soon. this was about the college exam. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
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| Haven't read the article yet, but is the article really dated the 29th November 2005??? They are ahead of themselves, aren't they??!!! |
Welcome to Korea. More precisely, welcome to reading the Korea Herald.
Korea the land where journalists experience time travel. |
Or rather, welcome to the newspaper where they print the publication date with the article. That date simply means that the article will appear in the Nov. 29th print ediition. No big deal. Stop griping over every little detail.
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| A parents' group said yesterday that it will file a petition |
I'm shocked, truly shocked, that there are enough over-protective Korean parents to form a group. Really and truly shocked. All along I've been thinking I was in a country where the parents were just as sane and reasonable as the parents back home....Oh wait a minute. They are pretty much the same.
Oh well. Never mind. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| kprrok wrote: |
| Stop griping over every little detail. |
So when you go dining with Koreans, it's perfectly OK to pour your own drinks, accept and give with one hand, and blow your nose at the table?
Who cares about every little detail?  |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Well these students were idiots. Everyone knows perfectly well that you do not take a handphone or mp3 player or any sort of digital recording device to the exam. The warnings are clear and numerous. There are lots of college programmes you can get into without the CSAT - don't waste a year moping and waiting to try again - just get on with your life and be lucky you're not facing criminal prosecution.
My guess is that some of these cases were students who don't really need the CSAT and just brought along toys to entertain themselves, and students who really need the CSAT and had a recording device were more likely to have more sinister motives. |
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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anyways, moving on to the article, what do people think? in some ways i think a one year ban is justified, they broke the rules, and may have had intent to cheat. not letting them take it next year sends a more powerful lesson that intent to cheat is not ok (which they do here so much).
on the other hand, if they were just unfortunate enough to really foget, i can understand teh complaint. but then, when I took the SATs, I remember I made sure to get a proper night sleep, double check and triple check the time, have a whole case of number two pencils, ask about calculaters, etc... why? because i didnt want something like this happening because i simply forgot about something.
so maybe the one year ban is justified, they knew the rule, they understood it, the rule was there for a clear and reasonable purpose, tough luck... |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| antoniothegreat wrote: |
anyways, moving on to the article, what do people think? in some ways i think a one year ban is justified, they broke the rules, and may have had intent to cheat. not letting them take it next year sends a more powerful lesson that intent to cheat is not ok (which they do here so much).
on the other hand, if they were just unfortunate enough to really foget, i can understand teh complaint. but then, when I took the SATs, I remember I made sure to get a proper night sleep, double check and triple check the time, have a whole case of number two pencils, ask about calculaters, etc... why? because i didnt want something like this happening because i simply forgot about something.
so maybe the one year ban is justified, they knew the rule, they understood it, the rule was there for a clear and reasonable purpose, tough luck... |
Trust me, they knew the rule, they understood it, and the rule was there for a clear and reasonable purpose. And they *didn't* 'just forget' to leave their handphones behind with their homeroom teachers when the latter made a careful point of collecting them beforehand and making it clear what would happen if they were caught wtih one. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| they knew the rule, they understood it, the rule was there for a clear and reasonable purpose, tough luck... |
Tough luck, indeed. They knew the rules and they voluntarily broke them. Tough luck. |
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Demonicat
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Christ, they were DQ'd for bringing their cells? When I took the SATs (waaaaay back in'9 we weren;t alloed to bring those or advanced calculators- but if we did they'd just take them at the door and return them on the way out. Wow, a year DQ seems a bit much. |
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kprrok
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Location: KC
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Christ, they were DQ'd for bringing their cells? When I took the SATs (waaaaay back in'9 we weren;t alloed to bring those or advanced calculators- but if we did they'd just take them at the door and return them on the way out. Wow, a year DQ seems a bit much. |
I'm pretty sure that they were supposed to check them at the door, but didn't. If they had checked them at the door or wherever they were supposed to leave them, no problems. But they took them into the tests.
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| "Will you walk into my parlour?" said the Spider to the Korean students with their cellphones. |
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