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Tiger Beer
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Tiger Beer
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I gotta say all the makeup is bizarre too..
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endo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Wow, those are interesting pics!
It's crazy that there is no traffic on the roads. |
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Swiss James
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Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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really interesting, as is the reaction to them in the thread:
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Looks like 1984: The City.
Creepiest place ever, and so completely devoid of life... even the few people around the streets look awkward, almost as if the government forced/payed them to crowd your pictures a little bit. |
doesn't seem like that at all to me, if anything I think the people look surprisingly normal. I was expecting a bunch of underfed zombies. |
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soviet_man
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These 12 pictures perfectly underscore what I have long been arguing on this board:
Despite the USA's criminal war crime attrocities of dropping 400,000+ bombs on Pyongyang in the 1950s, the DPRK (circa 2005) has created a viable, functioning, people-centered, socialist society. |
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SarcasmKills
Joined: 07 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
These 12 pictures perfectly underscore what I have long been arguing on this board:
Despite the USA's criminal war crime attrocities of dropping 400,000+ bombs on Pyongyang in the 1950s, the DPRK (circa 2005) has created a viable, functioning, people-centered, socialist society. |
Let's not get carried away here shall we... |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Whose sock is soviet_man? |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: North Korean pictures |
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I started rereading Orwell's 1984 yesterday and I came across this passage which is part of a scene where the protagonist, Winston, goes to the apartment next door and meets his neighbor's children:
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"Up with your hands!" yelled a savage voice.
A handsome, tough-looking boy of nine had popped up from behind the table and was menacing him with a toy automatic pistol, while his small sister, about two years younger, made the same gesture with a fragment of wood. Both of them were dressed in the blue shorts, grey shirts, and red neckerchiefs which were the uniform of the Spies. Winston raised his hands above his head, but with an uneasy feeling, so vicious was the boy's demeanour, that it was not altogether a game.
"You're a traitor!" yelled the boy. "You're a thought-criminal! You're a Eurasian spy! I'll shoot you, I'll vaporize you, I'll send you to the salt mines!" |
Sometimes I wonder, did Kim Il Sung read 1984 and say, "Oooahhh! Sounds like paradise!"
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: re: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
These 12 pictures perfectly underscore what I have long been arguing on this board:
Despite the USA's criminal war crime attrocities of dropping 400,000+ bombs on Pyongyang in the 1950s, the DPRK (circa 2005) has created a viable, functioning, people-centered, socialist society. |
Yeah, until Kim Il-sung or Kim Jung-il's pictures are not placed higher than everyone else's head, or someone wishes to voice disagreement with the Party, or someone wants freedom of the press or religion. People-centered my arse! The DPRK centers around two people - the Dear Leader and his father. How utterly stupid does one have to be to fall for smiling faces and clean parks? Nothing makes me more angry than seeing a defense of a regime that imprisons thousands of people for showing the slightest opposition to the Party line.
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seoulunitarian
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject: re: |
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double post
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
These 12 pictures perfectly underscore what I have long been arguing on this board:
Despite the USA's criminal war crime attrocities of dropping 400,000+ bombs on Pyongyang in the 1950s, the DPRK (circa 2005) has created a viable, functioning, people-centered, socialist society. |
I'd almost agree with that if it weren't for the massive famines in the countryside. Oh, and the time a guy I know who went there (a South Korean) was mobbed in a city square in Pyongyang just because he had a chocolate bar. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
These 12 pictures perfectly underscore what I have long been arguing on this board:
Despite the USA's criminal war crime attrocities of dropping 400,000+ bombs on Pyongyang in the 1950s, the DPRK (circa 2005) has created a viable, functioning, people-centered, socialist society. |
You do Socialism a great disservice by describing NK as socialist and demonstrate, frankly, that you haven't a flying clue what you're on about.
USA's criminal war attrocities [sic] against Pyeongyang during the Korean War (which the North started)? Deary me, I've heard some lefty twaddle in my time but this sort of thing we should string folk up for typing. |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, until Kim Il-sung or Kim Jung-il's pictures are not placed higher than everyone else's head, or someone wishes to voice disagreement with the Party, or someone wants freedom of the press or religion. People-centered my arse! The DPRK centers around two people - the Dear Leader and his father. How utterly stupid does one have to be to fall for smiling faces and clean parks? Nothing makes me more angry than seeing a defense of a regime that imprisons thousands of people for showing the slightest opposition to the Party line. |
I'm glad the success of the DPRK makes you angry. It should. The DPRK symbolizes the complete and total rejection of bourgeoise ruling class ideology, of capitalism and of accepting the domination of the world by America. KIS & KJI's pictures are placed higher than all others because of their historic role in standing AGAINST 50 years of Japanese colonialism and resisting subsequent decades of US imperialist agression against the DPRK.
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| You do Socialism a great disservice by describing NK as socialist and demonstrate, frankly, that you haven't a flying clue what you're on about. USA's criminal war attrocities [sic] against Pyeongyang during the Korean War (which the North started)? Deary me, I've heard some lefty twaddle in my time but this sort of thing we should string folk up for typing. |
During 1950-53, US warplanes splashed millions of gallons of napalm over North Korea. Isn't it ironic that the same people that defend *that* attrocity (indeed handed out medals for buring people alive) are today the same ones who are begging Kim Jong Il to end his nuclear activities in the supposed name of creating "peace"? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Wow.. a guy locked into Freshman Political Ideology 101 circa 20 years ago! Amazing.
North Korea is a paradise? Whoa.
I've known some hardcore communists.. but every one of them said North Korea WASN'T the example of how it was suppose to work.. but having a person who says it was.. wow.
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
These 12 pictures perfectly underscore what I have long been arguing on this board:
Despite the USA's criminal war crime attrocities of dropping 400,000+ bombs on Pyongyang in the 1950s, the DPRK (circa 2005) has created a viable, functioning, people-centered, socialist society. |
Then move there...
Socialism Works says "blah blah blah".
Of course not. Why would you choose to starve to death. |
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