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igotthisguitar · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject: Electronic Voting Fraud

FRAUD
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fraude, from Middle French, from Latin fraud-, fraus
1 a : DECEIT, TRICKERY; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with
something of value or to surrender a legal right Confused

b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : TRICK
2 a : a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : IMPOSTOR; also : one who defrauds : CHEAT
b : one that is not what it seems or is represented to be

synonym see DECEPTION, IMPOSTURE
http://m-w.com/dictionary/fraud

Electronic Voting Examined; Deadline Nears
By BRIAN BERGSTEIN, AP Technology Writer
Wed Nov 30, 8:40 PM ET

Even in this election off-year, the potential perils of electronic voting systems are bedeviling state officials as a Jan. 1 deadline approaches for complying with standards for the machines' reliability.

Across the country, officials are trying multiple methods to ensure that touch-screen voting machines can record and count votes without falling prey to software bugs, hackers, malicious insiders or other ills that beset computers.

This isn't just theoretical — problems in some states already have led to lost or miscounted votes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/electronic_voting;_ylt=AkTptLclrFFsUvGCAQYQOMwDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

hypnotist · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: I wish I were a sock

igotthisguitar · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject:

Octavius Hite · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:51 pm Post subject:

We need a good combination. In ottawa the municipal elections had one piece of paper with fill in the bubble style, then it was put through a scanner and the results were instantaneous but there was a paper record.

See easy solution to the problem.

Pligganease · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...

Yeah, if you thought the "hanging chads" were bad, electronic voting would just give the "secret society" that runs the US government an easier way to do it...

Besides, we all know blacks, latinos, and women can't use computers. Therefore, this "electronic voting" is just one more way "The Man" is trying to keep everyone down! Laughing

That was a joke, people.

hypnotist · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: I wish I were a sock

Fishy enough to swing the election? I don't know, and doubt it, but the investigations into the hackability, defect rate and lack of paper trails of some of these machines ARE downright scary.

I'm not sure it deserves the IGTG ueberformatting treatment, but when Diebold Inc. is withdrawing from beauty contests because (allegedly) it finds it too onerous to submit its code for checking... well.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/30/diebold_hides_source/

Edit: Verb agreement. Verb agreement. Verb agreement.

Moldy Rutabaga · Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea

Many of us are avoiding writing because we don't know a great deal about the subject. My hunch is that electronic voting will eventually work well as it's efficient and cheap-- just like IBM's mechanical vote-counting in the early 1900s made elections faster and made the company a giant.

But not yet. I can't use my computer for ten minutes without something crashing, and every week I have to run something to keep the spyware and porn ads away. How naive are we to believe that something so massive as an election can be done without some mishap?

Ken:>

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

igotthisguitar · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:10 am Post subject:

MD House Votes 137 to 0 to Ban Diebold Touch-Screen Voting in 2006!
Washington Post Covers Story on Front Page, Describes Unanimous Vote to 'Ditch Diebold' as
a 'Stunning Turnaround'in the State, Signals a 'National Shift' to Paper... Idea

A House united. That seems to be the effect that Diebold has had on the state of Maryland where they had
initially deployed their paperless touch-screen "voting" machines in 2002...

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002530.htm

some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

The latest report I read said the 2004 "election" was anybody's guess as to who really won.

There was definately enough to swing the vote........ just not enough people willing to risk the wrath of der fuhrer.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

If that were true the democrats would be demanding an investigation.

Beware when disinterested parties scream louder than the participants.

Al Qaida , the Bathists , Khomeni followers and many of the conspiracy theorists are fascists - for real.

igotthisguitar · Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:28 am Post subject:

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posting a defintion of strawman and then attaching Kerry's name to it in big bold letters somehow makes it true?
Works for me... Rolling Eyes

igotthisguitar · Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:38 am Post subject:

March 22, 2006
Texas electronic vote halted due to machine "errors"
Electronic machines not providing all information.

By Paul A. Anrthony
San Angelo Standard Times
March 21, 2006

ON orders from the Texas Secretary of State��s office, the recount for the Tom Green County Court-at-Law No. 2 race has been suspended midway through its second day.

About 1:30 p.m. today, county Republican Chairman Dennis McKerley stopped the recount after workers found discrepancies of as much as 20 percent between what was counted Monday and what was reported Election Night.

��We��re having some trouble with the electronic equipment,�� McKerley said.

Apparently, McKerley said, new electronic voting machines provided by vendor Hart InterCivic are not printing ballots for every vote cast on the machines. During recounts, which must be done by hand, the machines are designed to print out separate ballots for every vote.

A Hart InterCivic representative is expected to arrive Wednesday morning, McKerley said, to determine whether or how to retrieve the remaining printouts.

The problem affects early votes cast in what appears to be every precinct, McKerley said. All of commissioner��s Precinct 1 was affected, he said, as were all the randomly selected voting precincts in other parts of the county.

Although sign-in sheets match the counts provided by the machines on Election Night, he said, the number of printouts does not match the sign-in sheets.

More than 3,000 early votes were cast in the race between Assistant County Attorney Julie Hughes, incumbent Judge Penny Roberts and former prosecutor Dan Edwards, meaning the problem likely affects more than 600 votes of the 9,500 cast early and on Election Day.

Just 12 votes separate third-place finisher Edwards from second-place finisher Roberts to see who will face Hughes in the April runoff election.

Edwards requested and paid for the recount.