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[Bulsajo]

Ditto, 80-90% of my posts are from work.
A mod could look at the IP addresses and verify what I'm saying but I don't think anyone believes what a forum mod says, do they?
The mods all belong to some sort of sinister special private psy-ops unit funded by their evil overlord Dave.

[Rteacher]

I nominate "Why So Many Great Thinkers Have Been Vegetarians..." as Thread of the Year...

I also humbly nominate myself to receive a special "Multiple Lifetime Achievement Award" (... but I may wait till my next life to accept the award)

[Rteacher]

...BTW, no one has a superior avatar - Jaganatha (Krishna) is the source of all avatars...

[Bulsajo]

[kermo]

I loved this post by Yataboy:

[Rteacher]

...At least he's not full of "Bulsajo" (...not that there's anything wrong with that - )

[Demonicat]

I'm going to have to second the "why have great tthinkers been vegetarians" treads as TOY. It was awesome, it went to all levels, had yelling matches, debates, internal poitics, and was so bad that it went to, what? 15 pages before being trimmed. Thems was good times.

[Bulsajo]

[Rteacher]

I'm very sorry, "Bulsajo" (please don't invoke the dreaded "H" bomb!...) Naw, I didn't mind your joke about me at all (although it did have a little edge to it, it drew no blood...) but I thought I (not exactly in the spirit of Ramsey Clark defending Saddam Hussein) should defend "Igotthisguitar" 'cause he's backed me up a few times (mostly after I opined that our government protecting Afghani heroin dealers was abominable - but I wouldn't have minded if the Feds had protected dealers of blond Afghani hash in the late 60's...)

[Rteacher]

OK, the votes are starting to trickle in (thanks, "Demonicat" - the check's in the mail, and I've bumped your major thread...) Based on exit (from reality) polling, it looks like I'm a lock to win "Thread of the Year." I'm also claiming the "Avatar" award in what could be a juggernaut awards sweep (of Titanic proportions...)

"Most Hilarious Post ?" - How about this: (from "Anybody Want to Make a Movie" in response to an idea to do a remake of "El Mariachi" (involving a guy concealing a big gun in a guitar case...)

"Because of my quasi-legal background I have to raise an 'objection':
How the hell are ya gonna manage shooting outdoor scenes with 'guns' drawn with an all-foreign crew and no permits? (I don't think Universal Studios has any backlots in Seoul...) Completely deserted side streets? ...

How about a reality film within-a-film: While shooting an outdoor shooting scene near the War Memorial monument some curious Korean girls are attracted and get close to the crew. Some enraged Gyopos attack the girls. Hearing screams, some drunken U.S. military guys stagger over and start bustin' open heads...Since the shoot is on a Saturday, the usual Commie/student groups happen to descend on the scene setting fire to posters of Douglas MacArthur and running frantically (faces smeared in Korean labor union 'warpaint') in a circle around the crew, actors, Gyopos and military thugs. Thinking fast on his feet, the director opens several guitar cases of toy guns and quickly distributes them to the foreigners under seige and somehow broadcasts loud simulated gunfire (amidst a cloud of smoke bombs...) When the smoke clears, the scene resembles a mass graveyard of bloodied bodies, and the lone surviving cameraman eerily catches the director's last triumphant word on film: 'Cut!'"

So, what awards are left? "Classiest Member of the Year"? Well, I probably am the only graduate of "Classical High" (Springfield, Mass. - the same school - when known as "Central High" - that Timothy Leary attended...)

I'll graciously concede "Troll of the Year" to more worthy contenders...

"Wittiest Member of the Year"?: Well, yours truly did come up with this recently:

"Older trolls should get together and channel their aggressions musically by forming a hard rock group: The Trolling Stones."

I wonder what dashing outfit I should wear when interviewed by Joan Rivers (and Melissa) at the post-awards show gala?

[periwinkle]

Spidey's over in the Japan forum- maybe someone should let him know that he receiving votes so he can graciously come over here and accept his prize.

[Tiberious aka Sparkles]

[Bulsajo]

[Rteacher]

At the risk of losing popularity (ala Tom Cruise speaking without the filter of a good PR rep) I will state that I think "Igotthisguitar's" views on this Zionist-Holocaust topic are not that unreasonable - and probably have at least a germ of truth in them (if you look close enough).

From my background as a young radical involved in some anti-Vietnam war demonstrations I learned that the most radical elements (among the demonstrators) almost invariably tried to provoke violence against the mass of demonstrators in order to radicalize people to accept their revolutionary goals. (Bengali proverb: "Never trust a woman or a politician" - especially a radical politician...)

Since I'm not very well versed on Zionism (confusing it with "lionism") I had to do a google search, and the first thing I came up with was a website by orthodox Jews against Zionism - which seems to make the point that Zionists were responsible for a lot of suffering and deaths among Jews (they even have a link to a recent radio ad they run on WABC (in New York) urging President Bush to not support Zionist goals.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

To establish the idea that I'm not anti-Semitic, I can note that I had many Jewish friends as a kid, attended a high school that was about 70% Jewish, was the only "gentile" at our weekly poker games, and played basketball at the Jewish Community Center a few times. I also wanted to make the point that I technically am a "Semite" - being of Armenian heritage. I wasn't really sure what a "Semite" is though, so I googled "Semite... Armenian" and - lo and behold! - I encountered this:

Jews, Zionists Behind
Armenian Genocide Holocaust
By Jack Manuelian
4-23-5

[i]The plans of the 1915-23 Armenian Genocide, where a million and half Armenians perished in a barbaric way in their ancestral lands in modern Turkey, actually were drawn up and were in place by the year 1910 or 1912.

There is the book "Inner Folds of the Ottoman Revolution" written by Mevlan Zadeh Rifat in Turkish and published in 1929, the author, a pro-sultan Turk, claims that the "Armenian genocide was decided in August 1910 and October 1911, by a Young Turk committee composed entirely of displaced Balkan Jews in the format of a syncretist Jewish-Muslim sect which included Talaat, Enver, Behaeddin Shakir, Jemal, and Nizam posting as Muslims. It met in the Rothschild-funded Grand Orient loge/hotel of Salonika." Syncretism means a combination of different forms of belief or practice; masonism fits that description. As the masons started the 1897 revolution in France with the cry "liberty, fraternity, equality," Young Turks used the same slogan in their revolution of 1908.

A 1994 conference paper/lecture by Joseph Brewda of Schiller Institute entitled "Palmerson launches Young Turks to permanently control Middle East " claims the founder of the Young Turks to be a certain Jew by the name of Emmanuel Carasso. He states: "Carasso set up the Young Turk secret society in the 1890s in Salonika, then part of Turkey, and now part of Greece. Carasso was also the grand master of an Italian masonic lodge there, called 'Macedonia Resurrected.' The lodge was the headquarters of the Young Turks, and all the top Young Turk leadership were members."

Further on Mr. Brewda says: "During the Young Turk regime, Carasso continued to play a leading role. He met with the sultan, to tell him that he was overthrown. He was in charge of putting the sultan under house arrest. He ran the Young Turk intelligence network in the Balkans. And he was in charge of all food supplies in the empire during World War I." It is ironic that four centuries after the Turkish sultans welcomed the expelled European Jews into Turkey, certain Jews belonging to secret societies and to Zionism will kick the sultan out of power early in 20th century, destroy the Ottoman Empire, and celebrated their victory by massacring by proxy almost the whole Christian Armenian people, one million and half Armenians; half million Greeks; and half million Christian Assyrians & Arameans.

In 1982, after the Israeli army conquered Lebanon, they celebrated their victory by massacring by proxy children and women in the Palestinian camp of Shattila, in Lebanon, by allowing Lebanese Phalanger militia fighters to move into the camp for two days and murder its inhabitants. Eighty percent of the camp were killed. Nearly all of the dead were old men, women and children and all of them had been unarmed. Not one gun, not one knife was found in their possession, claims a Palestinian witness.

All this according to the percepts of the Talmud, the Satanic Bible of the Jews, which encourages Jews to kill, directly or indirectly, by sayings like: "Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless, is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber Raba c21 & Jalkut 772. In the eyes of Talmudists all non-Jews are godless. And "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Talmud: Coschen Hamischpat, Hagah 425. Very neatly put sentence indeed.

Jesus came and shed his blood for us in order to save humanity and put an end to human and animal sacrifices practiced by Talmudist Jews who believe that the shedding of the blood of the innocents is a prerequisite of their reptilian gods, specially before embarking on an enterprise. They have orchestrated the massacres and slaughters of millions and millions of humanity so that their demonic gods will be appeased and grand them a new homeland in the near-east. Apparently, the sacrifice of hundreds of millions of humanity during the first half of the twenty century (including the six million Jews of Nazi Holocaust) have appeased their gods and their wish was granted.

Back to the Young Turks. Mr. Brewda writes: "Another important area was the press. While in power, the Young Turks ran several newspapers, including 'The Young Turk,' whose editor was none other than the Russian Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky. Jabotinsky had been educated as a young man in Italy."

Mr. Brewda, ignoring the possibility that Talaat could have been a secret infiltrated Jew, writes: "Of course, there were also some Turks who helped lead the Young Turk movement. For example, Talaat Pasha. Talaat was the interior minister and dictator of the regime during World war I. He had been a member of Carasso's Italian masonic lodge in Salonika. One year prior to the 1908 coup, Talaat became the grand master of the Scottish Rite Masons in the Ottoman Empire. If you go to the [archives of] Scottish Rite headquarters in Washington, D.C., you can find that most of the Young Turk leaders were officials in the Scottish Rite."

By 1916 the British and French, overpowered by greed, already had a secret agreement to divide the Ottoman Empire between themselves. Presently Hitler's "Mien Kempt " anti-semitic book is a best-seller in Turkey, it is published by various Turkish publishers by thousands and thousands. Are the Turks finally waking up and realizing that their Sultan's refusal to grant Palestine to the Zionist Jews as a homeland had cost them their centuries-old empire? And are the subjugated Turks about to discover who their real rulers are? There are claims that the blue-eyed founder of modern Turkey, Kemal Ataturk had Jewish origins. And it is known that at least two presidents of modern Turkey (Inonu and Bayar) were Jewish.

In Istanbul, which was the capital and the power center of the Ottoman Empire, there was only few thousands (less than 10,000) Jews and some 200,000 Armenians and Greeks who controlled the trade, finances and arts of the Empire. Jews and Christians were in strong competition through hundreds of years of the life of the empire. Jews were the losers and Christians were the winner always because the Sultans ( there were very few bad sultans who killed Christians) listened to and favored the Christians. For the Zionist Jews to take over Turkey, its Christians had to be eliminated; and that is another ugly facade of the first Genocide of the 20th Century in Turkey.

Another source is the lengthy article "The Armenian & Jewish Genocide Project: Eliminating Ethnic Conflict Along the Oil Route From Baku to the Suez Canal Region " written by Clifford Shack and posted in his web-site.

Mr. Shack writes: "In the 1880's, the French branch of the Rothschild family acquired interests in Russia's Baku oil fields in an effort to supply their refinery on the Adriatic with cheap Russian oil. In exchange for these interests they built a railroad linking Baku to the newly acquired Black Sea port of Batum. This opened up the Baku oil, a major world supply, to the world. With the success of the new railroad, the Rothschilds had more oil than they could actually sell. Overcoming their fear of competing with the giant Standard oil [of USA], they sought out the huge [Far East] markets east of Suez."

Further on Mr. Shack makes his point: "The decision by the shrewd French Rothschild branch to diversify into other areas of oil exploitation was, presumably, a calculated one. Three years after they joined Royal Dutch, production at Baku would come to an abrupt halt in 1905. Although shaken by political activity, the principal disruption was due to the violence of the ethnic conflict between the region's Muslims and the minority population of Armenians who are Christians. This ethnic conflict caused the first interruption of oil distribution to the world market. Standard oil was quick to supplant the needs of the effected markets as its source was operating under the blanket of peace. The Royal/Dutch/Shell Group (and the Nobles) watched their Baku investments go up in flames. Ethnic conflict was at the root of the matter. It could be safely assumed that they were taking measures to eliminate the possibility of that happening in the future." Oil corporations seem to have learned their lessons from history because before the construction of present-day Baku-Ceyhan pipeline has began, someone has made sure that no Armenians were left in Baku anymore. Mr. Shack notes that "the mere elimination of the Armenian population of Baku would not solve the problem of ethnic conflict in that region. The surrounding areas would provide reservoir effect in resupplying the conflicting minority element." And he asks: "was the removal [in 1915-23] of a small minority like the Armenians [from historical Armenia] a fair price to pay for the peace in a region so crucial to the development and investment of the Far East?" Apparently Mr. Shack ignores the factor of revenge raging in the heart of human beasts.

Mr. Shacks answers his own question by stating in his article about the big business or big corporations: "It would be fair to say that the genocide of a group of a million or so, to serve the benefit of a billion or so [in the Far East], is less of a question of should it be done, than how it could be done. So as not to reveal any plausible motive which could link the actual planners to the genocide, the scheme involved a proxy party [namely the Muslim Turks, Kurds & Azeris] , which was manipulated through layers of influence, providing sufficient cover for the planners."

In chapter 30 of the book of Isaiah we read God speaking by His prophet: "Woe to the rebellious children, who execute a plan, but not Mine, and make an alliance, but not of My Spirit, in order to add sin to sin;...For this is a rebellious people, false sons, sons who refuse to listen to the instruction of the Lord."

This is not the whole story; there is an evil aliens connection to it. Amitakh Stanford, in her web-site <http://www.xeeatwelve.com> and in her article "The Anunnaki Remnants Are Still on Earth" writes: "It is these horrible beings, the Anunnaki, that Sitchin has written an apology for. Reading Sitchin's material, he has painted these evil aliens as palatably as possible by presenting the story that they are trying to save their own planet, and leaves the readers to believe that after that is accomplished, they would leave without a trace, so to speak. But, the Anunnaki came here to conquer and enslave, not for any worthy purpose whatsoever, nor will they leave voluntarily. "Anunnaki cull people and other species from the planet. Before, this was often referred to as genocide. However, today the more euphemistic term of "ethnic cleansing" is used. The disdain of other races is another vile Anunnaki-sponsored trait to divide people into factions and create hatred and distrust of one another. Any fair look at history will verify this as true. The twentieth-century Holocaust is one such example." So after all, we are not dealing with normal human beings, but by humans who are possessed with those alien entities and humans that are manipulated, influenced, and given instructions by those evil aliens in their various factions.

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I find the article interesting (especially the "alien-possession" angle) but I take it with a large grain of (sea)salt since I haven't - and probably won't ever bother to - verify the sources, etc. Politics isn't a very high priority for me (though I occasionally indulge in speculating and joking about political topics...) In my opinion, the political atmosphere is too polluted with lies - and clouded by vested interests - to clearly see the truth...

[coldcrush]