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explorer25



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:49 am    Post subject: anyone worked at or knows about... Reply with quote

I have applied to Anyang language school and got a respond from them.
And I also applied to Kid's college, (ad said it's foreign run) in Bundang..

I am also thinking about trying out public elementary schools...Getting pretty tired with working till 9 pm, and having only 10 days (3 of them school holiday, 7 days actually) holiday in whole year!!! Do public schools have summer off?

Any suggestion is appreciated..Thanks people...
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do public schools have summer off?


No, they don't. Two weeks seems to be the norm.

You would just squander the time on self-gratifying activites anyway.
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explorer25



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't these kids have summer holiday here ? I thought from July till early September is a summer vacation, as well as one week or so in winter...
Am I wrong?? Crying or Very sad
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kids have holidays...the Korean teachers have holidays...the Foreign teacher doesnt need vacation time. You get the wonderful privelege of spending 3-4 hours a day giving a totally meaningless English camp all by your lonesome. Yay Rolling Eyes
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explorer25



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically, we're required to work at Winter camps and summer camps, with two weeks of holiday in total? Jeez.. What are these job ads from 1-5pm at public schools for 2.0-2.1 M? Confused
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorer25 wrote:
Don't these kids have summer holiday here ? I thought from July till early September is a summer vacation, as well as one week or so in winter...
Am I wrong?? Crying or Very sad


Welcome to Korea - no they don't. At least middle and high school students usually have extra courses to take during winter and summer 'holidays'. And teachers get to spend most of their 'holidays' teaching them. If you're up for longer breaks, I would try teaching at an industrial high school, as they are more likely to shut down completely for a longer time. However, there are other reasons that would keep me from teaching at an industrial high school.
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explorer25



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do u mean industrial high school? Could u be more specific?
I also read "after school programs" now that is coming into effect starting March 2006. I got one recruiter respond me but I am not sure about signing a contract with a recruiter... So confused about what to do? If I can get them give me 2 weeks vacation in summer, 1 week in winter, that would be great...I dont mind 2.2 mil a month... Rolling Eyes
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorer25 wrote:
What do u mean industrial high school? Could u be more specific?
I also read "after school programs" now that is coming into effect starting March 2006. I got one recruiter respond me but I am not sure about signing a contract with a recruiter... So confused about what to do? If I can get them give me 2 weeks vacation in summer, 1 week in winter, that would be great...I dont mind 2.2 mil a month... Rolling Eyes


An industrial high school is for kids not going to uni, so they don't have so many of the advanced and remedial courses going on during breaks, thus they're more likely to have nothing for you to do. However, the students at these places can be hopeless. If you go through EPIK, you're more likely to teach at a middle school, and EPIK will try to find ways to keep you busy just cus they don't like their teachers getting more than the 2 weeks in the contract, even if the schools don't really care. If you can get a job through an individual school or school district you might be best off. It's still a bit of a crap shoot, but probably the worst public school jobs offer better holiday time than the best hogwans.
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explorer25



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see.. My hagwon is going down pretty bad, and she and I had problems before.... She can see now that I was right about the things I have mentioned that would be a problem, but she told me she was the boss..Ok, ur the boss with a narrow mind, I said to myself...Now u can see....
She was trying to blame me for the drop out students but she can see that it has nothing to do with me... It's her weak management, and her stupid curriculum.... Even the parents complain about her, and Korean teacher who also quit told me about this... Well, anyhow, I told her I am pretty tired working there, and I need to do certain things this spring, that's why I am planning to leave... This is my second year with her, and I cant handle her anymore and her stupid students who are not willing to learn at all... At least in public school I'll have the Korean teacher (hopefully she'll care just a bit) to help me out with students...
The problem is public schools dont do the advertisement, recruiters do.. So, I am trying to deal straight with the schools as much as possible...

Thanks for ur feedback...
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorer25 wrote:
Well, anyhow, I told her I am pretty tired working there, and I need to do certain things this spring, that's why I am planning to leave... This is my second year with her, and I cant handle her anymore and her stupid students who are not willing to learn at all... At least in public school I'll have the Korean teacher (hopefully she'll care just a bit) to help me out with students....

Dont gp thinking public school classes are a walk in the park. Lots of "stupid students" there also unwilling to learn & your Korean co-teacher might well have less of a clue than you. To get on well with large classes you need initiative & stamina. The tone of your post suggests you lack both.
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explorer25



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"To get on well with large classes you need initiative & stamina. The tone of your post suggests you lack both."

I have tried any means possible to motivate and try to get them to think in English little bit...But they are hopeless...they dont want to be there, they are tired, and English is the LAST thing on their mind... I have taught many monster classes, (classes of 30) and managed quite well... I care less about ur criticism at this moment....
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, my comment was too harsh. I went to X it but you responded too quickly.

What triggered my comment was your putdown of your students -- it sounds uncaring. In my experience kids in the public school would see right through that & give you a terrible time.
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explorer25



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before u write, think what you are writing then... I have dealt with all kinds of students, and this is not my first time teaching...Plus, I know, how to teach, and motivate my students, I think, because they all give me good feedback, and even parents love me...If I was uncaring, I wouldnt even try to teach these kids...But u cant force someone to do what they dont wanna do....We are here to teach if they are willing to learn. You can't teach by force, even u sugar coat it..
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last comment. 30 students is a "monster class"?
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At a lot of elementary schools the co-teacher leaves as soon as they see you coming down the hall.
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