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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:34 am    Post subject: More Students Become Conservative Reply with quote

More Students Become Conservative
Sixty-six percent of Korean college students do not support socialist ideas and advocate a market-oriented economy, according to a survey....professor of the department of psychology at Yonsei University,...survey looking at the school's 131 students and their 122 parents to measure the level of their ideological tendencies.
By Chung Ah-young, Korea Times
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200512/kt2005120517482010510.htm
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my students wrote a paper about how he's disappointed the US military are going to have a much lesser presence on the ROK. Many of the other students seemed to agree based on the argument.

1) Costs Korea A LOT OF MONEY to be protecting itself.
2) The anti-American incidents now seem trivial based on how much they benefit from the US military.
3) The local enonomy of businesses which benefit from their presense, etc.
4) US/Korea relations
5) The strong relation with the US, helps keep China/Japan from any imperalistic yearnings if it came to that for some reason in the future (keep in mind these are all Korean students perspectives - I thought the last one was a bit unrealistic).


I found the whole thing interesting coming from Korean university students.. wouldn't have heard any of those things prior to shrinking the US military presense on the ROK.
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope this means they'll be less anti-American as well. The pendulum can swing back unexpectedly too.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's so conservative about being pro-market? I'm that way inclined and also in favour of the very radical notion that people can make decisions for themselves better than government can. Politics is about more than just your economic beliefs.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
What's so conservative about being pro-market? I'm that way inclined and also in favour of the very radical notion that people can make decisions for themselves better than government can. Politics is about more than just your economic beliefs.


Yeah, just because someone isn't socialist doesn't mean they're conservative.

I find that when Koreans say they're conservative, they mean they're prudes who don't like talking about sex. It has nothing to do with what they think about the economy or international affairs.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR is it more students become conservative or more conservatives become students? Laughing

Which is first? hmmmm... Question
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: More Students Become Conservative Reply with quote

You know, when you flip the statistic and say "33% of Korean students advocate socialism," that's a little freaky, isn't it? I doubt it's even that high in Canada.

Obviously the writer is one of those Bushite morons who sees it as "There's two different sides: you've got your neo-conservatives in one, and you've got your liberals, communists, socialists, Democrats, social democrats, Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, Trotskyists, monarchists, anarchists, and everyone else in the other."
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Bee Positive



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: More Students Become Conservative Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
You know, when you flip the statistic and say "33% of Korean students advocate socialism," that's a little freaky, isn't it? I doubt it's even that high in Canada.

Obviously the writer is one of those *beep* morons who sees it as "There's two different sides: you've got your neo-conservatives in one, and you've got your liberals, communists, socialists, Democrats, social democrats, Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, Trotskyists, monarchists, anarchists, and everyone else in the other."




Come on, now!

If Canadians aren't supportive of socialism, why do they so consistently VOTE socialist?

It's not just the NDP. Canada's Liberal Party is about as socialist as they come.

These things are relative, of course. Canada is relatively MORE socialistic than the United States (which got a good healthy dose of socialism under FDR and hasn't quite shaken it off yet), while it's relatively LESS socialist than, let's say, Cuba or North Korea.

I very much doubt that you'll find anything close to a majority of Canadians wanting to abolish socialized medicine.



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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since only 131 students were polled, I would be inclined not to generalize too much from this report.

That being said, it's probably true. The Uri Party got in to power without having to spell out what its policies really mean. There was considerable dismay among young people when Roh said early in his term that the priority was to redistribute wealth rather than expand wealth. This did not sit well with all the unemployed university grads out there.

An independent foreign policy sounds nice but it may sound less attractive when you stop to figure out that money spent on new fighter planes means less money is available for highway construction.

China's claims on Koguryo and her easy success in forcing the garlic market open reminded many that China is not necessarily a more benevolent friend than the US.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: More Students Become Conservative Reply with quote

Bee Positive wrote:

Come on, now!

If Canadians aren't supportive of socialism, why do they so consistently VOTE socialist?

It's not just the NDP. Canada's Liberal Party is about as socialist as they come.

These things are relative, of course. Canada is relatively MORE socialistic than the United States (which got a good healthy dose of socialism under FDR and hasn't quite shaken it off yet), while it's relatively LESS socialist than, let's say, Cuba or North Korea.

I very much doubt that you'll find anything close to a majority of Canadians wanting to abolish socialized medicine.

BEE POSITIVE


Now that's just American retardedness at its strongest. Whose side were we on during the Cold War?

And look at how the US is turning into a centrally planned economy (through Walmart though, not the government). To me, that reeks of totalitarian commujism. Also, Americans support the Patriot Act, so they must be against individual rights and freedoms. This is fun!
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: More Students Become Conservative Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
More Students Become Conservative
Sixty-six percent of Korean college students do not support socialist ideas and advocate a market-oriented economy, according to a survey....professor of the department of psychology at Yonsei University,...survey looking at the school's 131 students and their 122 parents to measure the level of their ideological tendencies.
By Chung Ah-young, Korea Times
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200512/kt2005120517482010510.htm


Some thoughts.
1) Given the differences between North and South Korea, not supporting socialism is pretty much a no brainer.
2) Why the hell is a psychologist doing poli sci research? Oh yeah, I forgot. Academics in Korea are a joke.
3) Why are students "becoming" more conservative? There was no mention of a previous survey or a comparison between surveys.
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