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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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I tried using the musical scale.
The Konglish I sound is something like a MI
The real short-I sound is something like a RE tone.
Koreans know their DO RE MI FA SO LA Ti Dos ... I found it works well enough. I just have to get them to keep doing it. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| IlIlNine wrote: |
I tried using the musical scale.
The Konglish I sound is something like a MI
The real short-I sound is something like a RE tone.
Koreans know their DO RE MI FA SO LA Ti Dos ... I found it works well enough. I just have to get them to keep doing it. |
But.... re and i are nothing like the same.... I'm confused.
ay vs. ih? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps I am fooling myself, but I think that my students have no trouble saying
" is " or "in" correctly. Work with that, if your students can say those two, it should lead to bigger and better things. |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| IlIlNine wrote: |
I tried using the musical scale.
The Konglish I sound is something like a MI
The real short-I sound is something like a RE tone.
Koreans know their DO RE MI FA SO LA Ti Dos ... I found it works well enough. I just have to get them to keep doing it. |
But.... re and i are nothing like the same.... I'm confused.
ay vs. ih? |
It's not the sound I was concerned about per se - but the tone at which it is said. The Korean EEE sound is basically the short i sound said at a higher tone. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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I've certainly never heard that one before. I don't believe it for a second.
I can say the short "i" sound at any tone I want, or the long "eee".
They are 2 different sounds, no matter what tone you assign to them.
To the OP, here's a link that may be helpful.
http://www.soundsofenglish.org/pronunciation/
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| IlIlNine wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| IlIlNine wrote: |
I tried using the musical scale.
The Konglish I sound is something like a MI
The real short-I sound is something like a RE tone.
Koreans know their DO RE MI FA SO LA Ti Dos ... I found it works well enough. I just have to get them to keep doing it. |
But.... re and i are nothing like the same.... I'm confused.
ay vs. ih? |
It's not the sound I was concerned about per se - but the tone at which it is said. The Korean EEE sound is basically the short i sound said at a higher tone. |
Sorry, don't see it. Neither English nor Korean are tonal languages. Korean, like any other language, is different when spoken than is technically specified by the phonetics. Kimchee is a good example. The first �� and the second �� are often not pronounced the same, but you ask any Korean what �� is in isolation and they will invariably pronounce it like long e in English. Many *foreigners* pronounce kimchee like the name Kim, but if you listen closely you'll see Koreans do not flatten the sound to that degree.
Anyway... re still is not close to the short i in hit, so am still confused how you get that to work, but am intrigued.
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sibidi
Joined: 08 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| The title of this thread made me think that this post would be about Yoda and got me reading it. |
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