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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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jaganath69 wrote: |
If there is an annual white hood award for services to bigotry, I am sure Verne and his buddy Rapier would be in the running. BV, can you spell obsession, btw? |
Obsession, eh? Here's an example:
Denmark: Muslims offended by "Jewish cookies"
Another Oh-For-Pete's-Sake Alert. "Denmark��s offensive Jewish cookies," from the European Jewish Press, with thanks to D. C. Watson:
A group of Danish Muslims refuse to eat traditional ��Jewish�� cookies because they feel offended by the name.
According to the daily Danish newspaper B.T., Ole Poulsen, head of the public food consumer department said that the Muslim refusal to buy the cookies could have an effect on sales.
"If this will be the case, then we would be obliged to do something about it," he declared.
He added that changing the product name was a possibility, as had in the past been done with the ��Negroes�� kiss�� cakes, which were rebranded with a more neutral name.
Educating population
Jewish cookies, which are made with cinnamon and hazelnuts and actually have nothing particularly Jewish about them, are very popular in Denmark during the pre-Christmas period.
Denmark��s chief rabbi, Bent Lexner, said that he did not see any problem in a name change.
��There is nothing Jewish in it and I wouldn��t mind another name, but I think that it would be better to educate Muslims to respect the culture of the majority in Denmark, if they want the majority to respect their culture".
Sho nuf, Rabbi Lexner.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/
If laughing my ass off at the obsessive whining of your bretherin is bigotry, then yeah, hand me that white hood will you.
And Jag,
Happy Hannukkah! |
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jaganath69

Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:16 am Post subject: |
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If I have ever condoned an act of violence by a Muslim, or an act of stupidity as you have mentioned above, could you please show it to me. There is a fundamental (oops!) difference between yourself and your cohorts here and myself. That is that you (mainly yourself, Bigverne and rapier) choose to selectively report on certain sections of a religion in order to justify an agenda the likes of which I believe would be agreeable to the good ole boys on stormfront.org. Moreover, you have insulted my relationship with my wife on this board in a personal attack that beggars belief. You also seem to have tried to bait me with the happy hannukah greeting, something that will not work because I have respect for people of all religions. I accept that the state of modern Islam is far from perfect, but refuse to believe the lie that you three and others peddle, to wit that there is a global Islamic conspiracy to subjugate the world. On the other hand, I have tried to engage in debate without descending to the level that you have, only to find that again you bring in personal attacks based on my religion. Its a sad indication of what this board has become, little more than a flaming post for sad internet trolls who wish for nothing more than to forment disharmony in the world and indulge in petty personal attacks. This is yet another reason why people regard this board as a joke and refuse to post here. Why would you when the refuse of the white world calls it home?  |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:37 am Post subject: |
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choose to selectively report on certain sections of a religion |
Then perhaps you could choose to post some articles that refute my stance. While I wait for you to post articles about muslim states encouraging freedom of speech and enacting laws to protect minorities I will continue to expose the intolerance and extremism that are inherent in Islam.
Here is a 'peace rally' of muslims in London. And people wonder why Islam is portrayed the way that it is.
Just before going back to the USA after five months in the UK I attended the �Global Peace and Unity� Conference at London�s Excel Centre presented by the new Islam Channel and sponsored by Emirates Airlines, Western Union (hmm??) and the Metropolitan Police.
It was advertised as a diverse event to which non-Muslims were invited and the impression one got from the website was of a celebration of Middle Eastern culture, food, music and children�s activities in a London milieu.
To my utter horror -- and I should have written this report two days ago but my physical and emotional shock have rendered me nearly inert -- it was a seven-hour call to Jihad by a succession of ranting and shouting rabble-rousers.
To all of these exhortations came cries of �Alllahu Akhbar� from the enormous, simmering crowd of what looked to me like the angriest gathering of young men and women with whom I have ever had the misfortune to be seated in my lifetime.
Some 'rally for peace'!
http://www.currentviewpoint.com/cgibin/news.cgi?id=11&command=shownews&newsid=826 |
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hypnotist

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: I wish I were a sock
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Those who'd like a more, ahem, impartial view of the event can find write-ups here and here. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, that Happy Hanukkah comment was stupid.
Plus it doesn't start until the 26th this year. |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Both articles posted by hypnotist feature Mr. Iqbal Sacranie, a leading light in 'moderate' Islam. Says it all really.
Both articles also say very little about what went on at this muslim 'peace rally', and do not refute anything written in the article I posted. |
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hypnotist

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: I wish I were a sock
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:18 am Post subject: |
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bigverne wrote: |
Both articles also say very little about what went on at this muslim 'peace rally', and do not refute anything written in the article I posted. |
???
Yours:
it was a seven-hour call to Jihad by a succession of ranting and shouting rabble-rousers.
The Times:
[Tariq Suwaidan] said: ��We totally refuse to be looked upon as terrorists and we totally refuse that these people represent us — they don��t.�� He said that the terrorists were ��enemies of Islam��.
How do you equate the latter quote with a "call to Jihad"? |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:30 am Post subject: |
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The overall tone of the rally was not one of 'peace', but more of the usual cocktail of anti-Americanism, Jew hatred and denial.
Here's some more sermons of peace from the rally;
An elderly sheikh in Pakistan was beamed in live to tell this excited crowd that he could hardly bring himself to articulate the word �Israel� as this is not a country that even exists. (How would British Muslims like it if a rabbi got up and said partition had produced a country called Pakistan, a word he could barely utter because it is not a real country?)
He recounted being confronted by a fellow Pakistani after 9/11 who asked, �Do you not feel ashamed?� and he told the adoring crowd he did not see what there was to be ashamed of, and anyway, 9/11 was an excuse for the criminal Washington neocons to start a New Crusade against Islam.
Yvonne Ridley, who at any moment I expected to self-immolate, such was her fury at the Zionists, the Americans and her fellow Britons. To my utter disbelief, she condemned the British police force as some form of fascist brigade in �jackboot Britain.�
It's the summer of '69 all over again. |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003 Location: pusan baby!
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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jaganath69 wrote: |
If I have ever condoned an act of violence by a Muslim, or an act of stupidity as you have mentioned above, could you please show it to me. There is a fundamental (oops!) difference between yourself and your cohorts here and myself. That is that you (mainly yourself, Bigverne and rapier) choose to selectively report on certain sections of a religion in order to justify an agenda the likes of which I believe would be agreeable to the good ole boys on stormfront.org. Moreover, you have insulted my relationship with my wife on this board in a personal attack that beggars belief. You also seem to have tried to bait me with the happy hannukah greeting, something that will not work because I have respect for people of all religions. I accept that the state of modern Islam is far from perfect, but refuse to believe the lie that you three and others peddle, to wit that there is a global Islamic conspiracy to subjugate the world. On the other hand, I have tried to engage in debate without descending to the level that you have, only to find that again you bring in personal attacks based on my religion. Its a sad indication of what this board has become, little more than a flaming post for sad internet trolls who wish for nothing more than to forment disharmony in the world and indulge in petty personal attacks. This is yet another reason why people regard this board as a joke and refuse to post here. Why would you when the refuse of the white world calls it home?  |
Is this guy Jewish or Muslim? |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:11 am Post subject: |
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He converted to Islam when he married his wife, as in Islam, it is forbidden for a non-muslim man to marry a muslim woman. In many muslim countries, it is actually illegal. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:34 am Post subject: |
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jaganath69 wrote: |
That is that you (mainly yourself, Bigverne and rapier) choose to selectively report on certain sections of a religion in order to justify an agenda the likes of which I believe would be agreeable to the good ole boys on stormfront.org. |
Stormfront. That's the anti-semitic site, isn't it? Nothing like that among your people, is there? |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:37 am Post subject: |
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jagan wrote
Its a sad indication of what this board has become, little more than a flaming post for sad internet trolls who wish for nothing more than to forment disharmony in the world...
Friggin Astounding. Beheading Christian girls in Indonesia, murdering Buddhists in Thailand, taking children hostage in Ossetia, taking theatergoers hostage in Moscow, blowing up bars in Bali, blowing up shoppers in Tel Aviv, beheading peaceworkers in Baghdad, blowing up trains in London and Madrid, flying planeloads of people into skyscrapers in New York, blowing up wedding parties in Amman, blowing up hotels in Egypt and Kenya, and
you have the audacity to say it is we who are fomenting disharmony in the world (I think you menat that).
What will it take to wake some people up? I shudder to even imagine..... |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: |
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White supremacists and many muslims have a penchant for anti-Semitic Jewish conspiracy theories. In fact, David Duke is a big fan of the Arab struggle. Birds of a feather and all that. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:44 am Post subject: |
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And frankly, I have no idea why you think those who question the influence of Islam on the world as racists. Muslims are from all races, as are Christians and Jews and Buddhists.
It isn't about race. It's about a sick and twisted ideology engorged on a destructive mix of hatred, fantasy and delusion. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:06 am Post subject: |
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This thread just gets worse and worse. I'm going to save it with a racing girl.
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