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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: Korean Air pilot's strike |
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If you have a flight booked with Korean Air now or in the near future, I'd suggest making a back-up reservation with another carrier. I wish I could go home for Xmas like some of you guys  ...
Hey Swiss James~ any drama out at Incheon? |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I read in the newspaper (I don't know which one) that if they strike, the government will step in immediately like they did eventually with the Asiana strike, so there will be minimal disruption to flight schedules. Whether they will or not is another question. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, lots of planes sitting around on the tarmac at Gimpo a/p, and I know of one girl stuck in SFO trying to get back here.... |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Those things suck.
I got stuck in Rome once because Volaire Air suddenly went belly up (an Italian airliner).
Watching 300 people stranded with no other option and no assistance is quite a sight. |
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hypnotist
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's quite a pain (due to be flying ICN-LHR on KE on the 17th).
We'll see, we'll see.
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[2005-12-08 03:30 GMT]
Domestic Flight Cancellation and Extra Flight Operation Notice on Dec 9th
It is our regret to inform that every regular domestic flight on December 9th has been cancelled due to the pilot union��s strike.
However, Korean Air plans to operate total of 36 extra flights on Jeju route (Gimpo/Daegu/Cheongju/Gwangju/Busan <-> Jeju) and we are currently readjusting the schedules of passengers who already have booked the flights of Jeju route on December 9th.
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[2005-12-07 08:00 GMT]
International Flight Cancellation Notice on December 8th
Please refer to the following list of flights that have been cancelled on December 8th due to the pilot strike. (As of 8 a.m. 7th December GMT / 5 p.m. 7th December KST)
8th December
(THU)
KE001 Incheon (ICN) / Tokyo (NRT) / Los Angeles (LAX)
KE002 Los Angeles (LAX) / Tokyo (NRT)
KE023 Incheon (ICN) / San Francisco (SFO)
KE024 San Francisco (SFO) / Incheon (ICN)
KE031 Incheon (ICN) / Dallas (DFW)
KE032 Dallas (DFW) / Incheon (ICN)
KE691 Incheon (ICN) / Taipei (TPE)
KE692 Taipei(TPE) / Incheon (ICN)
KE713 Busan (PUS) / Tokyo (NRT)
KE714 Tokyo (NRT) / Busan (PUS)
KE715 Busan (PUS) / Tokyo (NRT)
KE733 Jeju (CJU) / Osaka (KIX)
KE753 Busan (PUS) / Nagoya (NGO)
KE754 Nagoya (NGO) / Busan (PUS)
KE757 Incheon (ICN) / Nagoya (NGO)
KE758 Nagoya (NGO) / Incheon (ICN)
KE769 Incheon (ICN) / Akita (AXT)
KE770 Akita (AXT) / Incheon (ICN)
KE783 Busan (PUS) / Fukuoka (FUK)
KE784 Fukuoka (FUK) / Busan (PUS)
KE793 Incheon (ICN) / Nagasaki (NGS)
KE794 Nagasaki (NGS) / Incheon (ICN)
KE859 Daegu (TAE) / Beijing (PEK)
KE860 Beijing (PEK) / Daegu (TAE)
KE871 Cheongju (CJJ) / Shanghai (PVG)
KE872 Shanghai (PVG) / Cheongju (CJJ)
KE889 Busan (PUS) / Qingtao (TAO)
KE890 Qingtao (TAO) / Busan (PUS)
KE891 Busan (PUS) / Xian (XIY)
KE892 Xian (XIY) / Busan (PUS)
9th December
(FRI)
KE002 Tokyo (NRT) / Incheon (ICN)
KE718 Tokyo (NRT) / Jeju (CJU)
KE734 Osaka (KIX) / Jeju (CJU)
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Interestingly no European flights have been cancelled. Yet. |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| hypnotist wrote: |
Yeah, it's quite a pain (due to be flying ICN-LHR on KE on the 17th).
We'll see, we'll see.
Interestingly no European flights have been cancelled. Yet. |
knock wood.
I believe that they (the airline) will shuffle around pilots/backups for international flights (save Japan) as much as possible for the sole purpose of keeping the flames of anger reaching overseas (maybe just to western nations???). Then again, they did drop CA flights...but that could be due to not being prepared to call bluff.... Dunno.
My flight is for the 9th in the morning and it has yet to be listed (fingers crossed).
Lazy basssssssties.
!shoosh
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hypnotist
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:55 am Post subject: |
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US flights are being hit badly... and the first European flights are being cancelled.
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[2005-12-08 05:00 GMT] International Flight Cancellation Notice on December 9th
Please refer to the following list of flights that have been cancelled on December 9th due to the pilot union's strike.
(As of 6 a.m. 8th December GMT �� 3 p.m. 8th December KST)
December 9th (FRI)
North America
Flight Number
Route
KE001 Incheon (ICN) �� Tokyo (NRT) �� Los Angeles (LAX)
KE002 Los Angeles (LAX) �� Tokyo (NRT) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE023 Incheon (ICN) �� San Francisco (SFO)
KE024 San Francisco (SFO) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE035 Incheon (ICN) �� Atlanta (ATL)
KE036 Atlanta (ATL) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE081 Incheon (ICN) �� New York (JFK)
KE082 New York (JFK) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE037 Incheon (ICN) �� Chicago (ORD)
KE038 Chicago (ORD) �� Incheon (ICN)
South East Asia
Flight Number
Route
KE661 Busan (PUS) �� Bangkok (BKK)
KE681 Incheon (ICN) �� Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
KE693 Incheon (ICN) �� Taipei (TPE)
KE694 Taipei (TPE) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE8659 Incheon (ICN) �� Bangkok (BKK)
Japan
Flight Number
Route
KE725 Incheon (ICN) �� Osaka (KIX)
KE701 Incheon (ICN) �� Tokyo (NRT)
KE702 Tokyo (NRT) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE713 Busan (PUS) �� Tokyo (NRT)
KE714 Tokyo (NRT) �� Busan (PUS)
KE717 Jeju (CJU) �� Tokyo (NRT)
KE718 Tokyo (NRT) �� Jeju (CJU)
KE731 Busan (PUS) �� Osaka (KIX)
KE732 Osaka (KIX) �� Busan (PUS)
KE734 Osaka (KIX) �� Jeju (CJU)
KE754 Nagoya (NGO) �� Busan (PUS)
KE753 Busan (PUS) �� Nagoya (NGO)
KE757 Incheon (ICN)/ Nagoya (NGO)
KE758 Nagoya (NGO) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE755 Jeju (CJU) �� Nagoya (NGO)
KE756 Nagoya (NGO) �� Jeju (CJU)
KE783 Busan (PUS) �� Fukuoka (FUK)
KE784 Fukuoka (FUK) �� Busan (PUS)
Oceania
Flight Number
Route
KE6825 Incheon (ICN) �� Christchurch (CHC)
KE805 Incheon (ICN) �� Guam (GUM)
China
Flight Number
Route
KE615 Busan (PUS) �� Hong Kong (HKG)
KE616 Hong Kong (HKG) �� Busan (PUS)
KE845 Incheon (ICN) �� Qingdao (TAO)
KE846 Qingdao (TAO) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE849 Daegu (TAE) �� Yantai (YNT)
KE850 Yantai (YNT) �� Daegu (TAE)
KE853 Incheon (ICN) �� Beijing (PEK)
KE855 Jeju (CJU) �� Beijing (PEK)
KE856 Beijing (PEK) �� Jeju (CJU)
KE863 Incheon (ICN) �� Tianjin (TSN)
KE864 Tianjin (TSN) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE875 Busan (PUS) �� Shanghai (PVG)
KE876 Shanghai (PVG) �� Busan (PUS)
KE874 Shanghai (PVG) �� Gwangju (KWJ)
KE873 Gwangju (KWJ) �� Shanghai (PVG)
KE885 Incheon (ICN) �� Kunming (KMG)
KE886 Kunming (KMG) �� Incheon (ICN)
Europe
Flight Number
Route
KE923 Incheon (ICN) �� Moscow (SVO)
KE924 Moscow (SVO) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE925 Incheon (ICN) �� Amsterdam (AMS)
KE926 Amsterdam (AMS) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE927 Incheon (ICN) �� Rome (FCO)
KE928 Rome (FCO) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE951 Incheon (ICN) �� Dubai (DXB) �� Cairo (CAI)
KE6955 Incheon (ICN) �� Istanbul (IST)
December 10th (SAT)
Please be advised that cancelled flights listed below are only a portion of selected oversea departure flights. Further notice of the entire flight cancellation on December 10th will be posted upon finalizing the changes.
South East Asia
Flight Number
Route
KE662 Bangkok (BKK) �� Busan (PUS)
KE682 Ho Chi Minh City (SGN) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE8660 Bangkok (BKK) �� Incheon (ICN)
Japan
Flight Number
Route
KE718 Tokyo (NRT) �� Jeju (CJU)
Oceania
Flight Number
Route
KE8826 Christchurch (CHC) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE806 Guam (GUM) �� Incheon (ICN)
China
Flight Number
Route
KE854 Beijing (PEK) �� Incheon (ICN)
Europe
Flight Number
Route
KE952 Cairo (CAI) �� Dubai (DXB) �� Incheon (ICN)
KE6956 Istanbul (IST) �� Incheon (ICN)
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hack
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:33 am Post subject: |
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A good lesson here is to book flights on airlines of countries where strikes are not tolerated. ie China, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan.
They all fly to Europe and North America. Screw unions-another British invention that has outlived its usefulness. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:51 am Post subject: |
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My books have been slightly delayed because of this even though we use another airline.
Them Korean air pilots really do not want to take those English test huh? |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| hack wrote: |
A good lesson here is to book flights on airlines of countries where strikes are not tolerated. ie China, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan.
They all fly to Europe and North America. Screw unions-another British invention that has outlived its usefulness. |
My flight is among those cancelled...and I am going to cancel the lives of some @#^^%$@#^@ !#$%^% %$^^ !#$^!$%!#&%& pilots.
!shooshing pissed,
Ryst |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:28 am Post subject: |
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all I can tell you is that our translator (whose husband is a co-pilot for KE) says KAL made loads of money this year but refused to increase wages, then when I was on an internal bus I heard some pilots talking and they said
"It'll get very complicated if this goes on for more than a day"
Thanks for your time,
SJ. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| Swiss James wrote: |
all I can tell you is that our translator (whose husband is a co-pilot for KE) says KAL made loads of money this year but refused to increase wages,...
SJ. |
You mean company management might keep the profits. Where is the dedication of the pilots? They should work for the joy of flying the planes. Who needs wage increases, labor laws, and unions? |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| I've been boycotting Korean Air for almost a decade now. Do you think they'll go belly up or continue to belly flop? What a crappy carrier. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Harpeau wrote: |
| I've been boycotting Korean Air for almost a decade now. Do you think they'll go belly up or continue to belly flop? What a crappy carrier. |
why would they go belly up if they're making a lot of profit?
I've flown Korean Air a few times and they were alright- planes were absolutely ram packed both times I went long-haul, but you can't blame a carrier for selling lots of tickets. Food was so-so, service was average, inflight entertainment same as anyone else really.
Seems to me that Korean Air and Asiana take it in turns to strike every 6 months. |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| So how do we find out if our flights are affected? Is there a number to call? Im supposed to be leaving in a week.... |
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