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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Civil war here we come? Reply with quote

Could this be the spark that starts the fire for real?

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-oildeal1dec01,0,4057840.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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Kurdish Oil Deal Shocks Iraq's Political Leaders
A Norwegian company begins drilling in the north without approval from Baghdad.

By Borzou Daragahi, Times Staff Writer

BAGHDAD — A controversial oil exploration deal between Iraq's autonomy-minded Kurds and a Norwegian company got underway this week without the approval of the central government here, raising a potentially explosive issue at a time of heightened ethnic and sectarian tensions.

The Kurdistan Democratic Party, which controls a portion of the semiautonomous Kurdish enclave in northern Iraq, last year quietly signed a deal with Norway's DNO to drill for oil near the border city of Zakho. Iraqi and company officials describe the agreement as the first involving new exploration in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.

Drilling began after a ceremony Tuesday, during which Nechirvan Barzani, prime minister of the Kurdish northern region, vowed "there is no way Kurdistan would accept that the central government will control our resources," according to news agency reports.

In Baghdad, political leaders on Wednesday reacted to the deal with astonishment.

"We need to figure out if this is allowed in the constitution," said Adnan Ali Kadhimi, an advisor to Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari. "Nobody has mentioned it. It has not come up among the government ministers' council. It has not been on their agenda."

The start of drilling, called "spudding" in the oil business, is sure to be worrisome to Iraq's Sunni Arab minority. They fear a disintegration of Iraq into separate ethnic and religious cantons if regions begin to cut energy deals with foreign companies and governments. Sunnis are concentrated in Iraq's most oil-poor region.

Iraq's neighbors also fear the possibility of Iraqi Kurds using revenue generated by oil wells to fund an independent state that might lead the roughly 20 million Kurds living in Turkey, Iran and Syria to revolt.

Iraqi legal experts and international oil industry analysts have questioned the deal. Oil industry trade journals had expressed doubts that it would come to fruition.

Iraq's draft constitution, approved in an Oct. 15 national referendum, stipulates that "the federal government with the producing regional and governorate governments shall together formulate" energy policy. However, it also makes ambiguous reference to providing compensation for "damaged regions that were unjustly deprived by the former regime."

Iraq's Kurds have argued that the country's existing oil fields and infrastructure, such as those in the largely Kurdish cities of Kirkuk and Khanaqin, should be divvied up by the central government but that future oil discoveries should be controlled by each oil-producing region.

In his speech Tuesday, Barzani, the nephew of Kurdish politician and former guerrilla leader Massoud Barzani, eschewed the language of the law and couched the deal in political terms. He invoked the Kurds' years of deprivation at the hands of the Sunni Arab-dominated government of Saddam Hussein.

"The time has come that instead of suffering, the people of Kurdistan will benefit from the fortunes and resources of their country," he said during the ceremony in the western portion of Kurdish-controlled territory.

The Kurds, who during the last several years of Hussein's rule maintained sovereignty in northern Iraq under the protection of U.S. warplanes, made millions in transit and customs fees as the Baghdad government smuggled oil to Turkey in violation of United Nations sanctions. Since the end of the sanctions, the Kurds have sought ways to make up for that lost income.

The eastern administrative half of the Kurdish region also is rushing to sign energy deals with foreign companies without Baghdad's approval. The government of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, based in the city of Sulaymaniya, has signed an electricity agreement with a Turkish company and explored a possible oil deal with a foreign partnership near the city of Chamchamal, the site of several dormant oil wells.

During months of painstaking constitutional negotiations, Kurds insisted on the authority to cut energy deals without Baghdad's approval. Under the draft charter, the task of determining how oil resources will be allocated is left to the National Assembly that will be elected Dec. 15.

The language in the constitution regarding the power of regions to pen such contracts was a major reason that the vast majority of Sunnis voted against the charter in October.

The announcement of the DNO drilling took many Iraqis by surprise Wednesday.

"This is unprecedented," said Alaa Makki, a leader of the Iraqi Islamic Party, a Sunni Arab group. "It's like they are an independent country. This is Iraqi oil and should be shared with all the Iraqi partners."

Makki said Kurds were trying to have it both ways, controlling the Iraqi presidency and several powerful ministries in the national government while also trying to lay claim to extra-constitutional powers in the north. Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, is the Iraqi president.

However, Helge Eide, managing director of Oslo-based DNO, said he believed Iraq's new constitution gave the Kurdish north jurisdiction over certain drilling and oil exploration activities.

"That was clearly pointed out by Mr. [Nechirvan] Barzani," said Eide, who attended the Zakho ceremony.

Oil companies have become used to operating in hostile and unstable territories. DNO, founded 25 years ago, is considered an upstart in the oil business, with projects in Yemen, Mozambique and Equatorial Guinea, the site of a coup attempt last year, as well as northern Europe.

Eide said his company was more than willing to work with the government in Baghdad, though it had not yet signed a deal with the capital for oil exploration. In April, the company signed a deal to provide the Iraqi Oil Ministry with training and technology as "the first steps" to being invited by Baghdad, as well as the Irbil-based Kurdish government, for future oil and exploration work.

Iraq, a member of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, holds an estimated 115 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, mainly in the south, according to Oil & Gas Journal, an industry publication.

That places Iraq among the top five nations in oil reserves. Iraq could contain significantly more undiscovered oil where energy exploration hasn't occurred, an area that stretches across about 90% of the country, the U.S. Energy Department said.

Iraq exports about 2 million barrels of oil a day, according to the International Energy Agency in Paris.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sovereignity and autonomy to the 20 million Kurds of Kurdistan!

I like it.
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fusionbarnone



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurds would be perfect for maintaining peaceful/profitable relations in Iraq as the shoe had to shift to a trustworthy party along ethnic lines close to home.

Now, Kazakhstan, is going to be interesting to watch in coming years predicted to be the world's largest supplier of gas and oil. How much previous aid(US$8mil per annum) equals a serious stake? An interesting transnational exercise in democratic pie-quartering without incident?
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lastat06513



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This can get VERY sticky...

The US has invested so much in promoting the constitution. To have a group flagrantly disregrding it would put the whole process in dangerous jepeordy because if it is not allowed in the constitution, they would have to stop it and the national government would have to shut it down- possible with force.
If force is used, I can guarantee you that it won't be Iraqi soldiers doing the gun totting, if you know what I mean. This would put the US in a VERY sticky situation.

One way would be for the company to sign another agreement with the central government, getting official rights to drill (which shouldn't be very hard since Norway could go through the US on the side). Or another way would be for the Iraqi government to tax the oil with a "autonomy surcharge" to allow the DNO to continue drilling in the region.

I have nothing against the Kurds and I am all for their struggle, but they must play by the rules in order not to upset Iraq or Turkey for that matter...
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rapier



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They fear a disintegration of Iraq into separate ethnic and religious cantons


I would have reccomended this from the beggining. The border lines of Iraq are not natural and owe more to geomettry than demography.
it is silly to force very different/varied peoples to try and live in a unified state.

The Kurds should have their own state. This is a golden opportunity for them to get one.
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they must play by the rules in order not to upset Iraq or Turkey for that matter...


Bollocks. They have a right to a state, just like any distinct ethnic group. Do they need Turkey's permission? And let's not even talk about 'Iraq' since that isn't even a proper country anyway. The sooner it disintegrates the better.
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Rhoddri



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And let's not even talk about 'Iraq' since that isn't even a proper country anyway. The sooner it disintegrates the better.


Umm... Ever read anything about post-Ottoman "Iraq"?

Sykes-Pichot, Arab Facade..etc. I guess the people responsible for those ideas also had contempt for the region's people similar to your own.
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess the people responsible for those ideas also had contempt for the region's people similar to your own.


Iraq, like Nigeria, is not a real nation in any sense of the word. It is a mess, born out of colonial drawing of boundaries. What exactly were you disagreeing with? It is obvious that the Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites will never live together in peace, so best let them go there separate ways.
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big guy. pay attention, its not the seperation thats the problem its the mass slaughter that follows that is the problem. There is no way that the Sunni's will let the Kurds take the oil in the north and there is no way that Iran won't back up the Shiites as well when it comes to this whole thing. I'm for destroying this postcolonial BS but not at the risk of a mass slaughter.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


First transmitted Channel 4 November 21st

Peter Oborne, political editor of the Spectator, reports on the West's exit strategy for Iraq. He believes the invasion of Iraq is proving to be the greatest foreign policy failure since Munich.

Oborne argues that the plan to transform Iraq into a unified liberal democracy, a beacon of hope in the Middle East, is pure fantasy. Reporting on location with US troops in Sadr City, and through interviews with leading figures in Britain and the US, Oborne argues that the coalition and its forces on the ground are increasingly irrelevant in determining the future of Iraq - a future that's unlikely to be either unified, liberal or democratic.

The film includes interviews with Richard Perle, Peter Galbraith, Deputy Chief of Army staff General Jack Keane.

Oborne also interviews Rory Stewart, who worked as a deputy governor in Nasyriah and witnessed first hand the rise of the pro-Iranian fundamentalist parties that are now at the heart of the Iraqi government.

http://indybay.org/uploads/iraq_reckoning.rm
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