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ChimpumCallao



Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its official...@ least @ wori...

no cards to FOREIGNERS because they take out TOO MUCH OF THEIR OWN MONEY overseas. This is supposedly Korean law now.
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merlot



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one recently at Hanna Bank, no problem.

The rules here, as it seems, are made up as they go; or, they are custom-tailored to suit the interest (at the moment) of the banker/cook/immigration office worker/bartender/hogwon director/policeman/store owner/airline counter person/customs official/girlfriend/boyfriend/stranger on the street, etc...
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kalbi



Joined: 27 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: my 2 cents Reply with quote

My international Kookmin ATM Card which used to work all over the world failed to work in about 8 foreign countries (including the US) in the last year. Kookmin explained to me that the rules have changed and that while Koreans can stil have international ATM cards, that foreigners are not allowed to.

A family member has an ATM card on a companion Kookmin account and her card still works outside of Korea.

I went to a Korea Exchange Bank in Myoung Dong last week to open an accoutn so that I could get one of their international ATM cards whcih supposedly still work. I was told that their ATM cards could not be used overseas.

oh-took-ay???
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChimpumCallao wrote:
its official...@ least @ wori...

no cards to FOREIGNERS because they take out TOO MUCH OF THEIR OWN MONEY overseas. This is supposedly Korean law now.


Only it's not that but to make laundering of money harder. You can still take all your money out of the country, you just have to either carry it out (and declare it depending on the country being entered), wire tranfer, or money order.

If you really need a bank card, wire the money to a bank in your own country and enjoy the benefits of being a citizen.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

merlot wrote:
The rules here, as it seems, are made up as they go; or, they are custom-tailored to suit the interest (at the moment) of the banker/cook/immigration office worker/bartender/hogwon director/policeman/store owner/airline counter person/customs official/girlfriend/boyfriend/stranger on the street, etc...


Well put... K-land in a 'nutshell'. Rolling Eyes

Why fu*k around with an ATM card that may (or may not) work internationally?... if you qualify, get a credit card. Cool
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hack



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damm, I get antsy every time I read a thread like this because I have cards from most of the banks mentioned here and plan to use them as the way to get the rest of my money out of Korea after I leave next week. So far, 2 of them still work as I have sent them to someone I trust back home and they have been taking a couple thou a week out of my accounts here. And 2 of them won't work. The funny thing is that 1 that works and 1 that doesn't is the same bank although different branches and accounts.
It will be interesting to see if they really do put the clamps on all foreigner withdrawals from ATMs outside Korea because even though it seems many people are stumped now, others are still having no problems
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: International ATM card? Reply with quote

philthy wrote:
I talked to my co-teacher about accessing my Korean account outside of Korea. She called Wooribank and was told such a card does not exist, even for Koreans.

Is this true? I have a hard time believing you can not access funds while travelling abroad.


Is this a joke?

I have used by KEB and Daegu Bank cards outside Korea, just look at the symbols on the back. Obviously someone at the bank doesn't go overseas and they're clueless, but yes, most bank cards in Korea work overseas.

Then again, my name is always in Korean, and I've been in their systems a long time. Woori is my newest and I've had it since 2004, haven't tried it overseas.

Sometimes they don't work overseas because they ONLY work during Korean banking hours. That also means they don't work during Chuseok holiday, etc. They don't work at night... in Thailand it's easy, but if you are in the US, you have to remember to go at the right time of day.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any card with a 'Cirus' or 'Plus' symbol on the back should work at any ATM displaying the same symbol anywhere in the world. However, even if one's card and the machine display the same symbol, a complicating factor may be the number of digits in one's PIN - last year I had to 'reprogram' my Royal Bank of Canada card from a five-digit to a four-digit PIN to be able to use it in South America.
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Any card with a 'Cirus' or 'Plus' symbol on the back should work at any ATM displaying the same symbol anywhere in the world.


Not true with all Korean ATM cards. There are loads of other threads explaining why. Give people on here some credit! They're smart enough to match symbols.

For the record -- KB card doesn't work in Canada for me anymore (after it working here last winter), KEB works like a charm.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The operative word in my sentence is "should".
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
The operative word in my sentence is "should".


yes but they dont!
hana is the only bank now issueing international cards to foreigners!
if you have old cards hang on to them becuase you will not be issued another one under this new law with another bank!
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truthfulchat



Joined: 30 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Bank of America takes Maestro Cards Reply with quote

I think right now only the ATMs from Bank of America take Maestro but you can deposit and withdrawel as usual with them. I do want to note there is a quite bit of charge for using foreign cards.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My KB has cirrus and maestro on it, but it doesnt work anywhere outside of Korea. It's almost 3 years old.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I know who I'm not voting for in the next local elections (yes, us F-5 visa holders have that right).
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that there is no law that says foreigners can't have an international access card but all banks have at the same time 'decided' there is. I am wondering if this is a Fair Trading Commission (FTC) issue as almost all banks have decided this simultaneously.

I have an Standard Chartered check card which has worked in Hong Kong, Japan, and New Zealand.

Today I am going to do battle with Woori and will update here with the result.

BTW I am not a lawyer in any jurisdiction and my belief that there is no law stems from what I was told a government official said at the Seoul Town meeting on Friday 2 weeks ago.
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