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bucheon bum
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 Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: No movie theatres in Saudi |
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Another reason not to live in Saudi Arabia (as if there weren't enough already): movie theatres are illegal. I didn't know that until I read this article about cafes starting to show films:
Without Cinemas, Cafe Owners fill Void
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Cinema theaters have always been an obsession for many people in the Kingdom.
Since the country��s law forbids them, some eager moviegoers have gone to extremes to catch the latest blockbuster. People in Riyadh and the Eastern Province have been known to drive all the way to Bahrain or the United Arab Emirates (UAE) just for the purpose of watching a movie on a big screen.
Others invest in projectors and set up their own cinema environment in the privacy of their homes.
The latest trend for desperate moviegoers in Jeddah is the cinema cafe. |
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Wrench
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| One word: DVD��. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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if you didn't, why you read this thread? |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting, although it doesn't say why cinemas are banned. It would be interesting to know the logic behind that. Presumably, it has something to do with the Islamic prohibition on the portrayal of icons. This is why in many Islamic countries the protrayal of animals or humans in artwork is banned. This seems to vary greatly from country to country, as Iran has a thriving cinema industry and numerous mural depicting clerics. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| In its most extreme forms, Islam seems to entail a total ban on fun, or anything that does not fit into the 'total regulation of life' that Islam entails. Music, artwork, cinema, dancing were all circumscribed by the Taleban and are restricted, to a greater or lesser extent in many Islamic countries. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| In its most extreme forms, Islam seems to entail a total ban on fun, |
Yep, although in this case Islam is definitely not alone as a religion. One mistake religions often make when they are the primary religion in a country is taking what they believe and deciding that it would be good for everyone else as well. If you take a guy that was an atheist at 18 and then Christian at 20 by his own will for example, maybe at 18 excessive prosletyzing might have turned him off from the whole thing and made him even more opposed to the religion. The best thing that a religion can do is to lead by example through its priests and whatnot, have them live lives of wisdom and benefit the community, answering questions when they are asked and not looking to eager to make everyone else think exactly the same way they do. That's actually more effective because it gets people thinking 'wow, look at those guys, I'd like to be like them, how do I get to do that?' as opposed to 'oh no, those guys again, let's walk the other way because they're going to start talking about Jesus/Mohammed/other religious figure'. Even though this isn't a real religion (unless you ask the UK's census bureau) take the Jedi for example. Pretty much everybody wants to be a Jedi because they're so damn cool. I have to be celibate and avoid attachments? Hm...but I get a light sabre and can move things with my mind, plus travel all around the universe doing good deeds. You like your worldly attachments? That's fine, but you can't be a jedi. That's the sort of attitude religions in this world need to have. Islam needs to move back into working on science, math and research, and show people that they're a religion worth believing in instead of just instilling as much of it as possible to the lowest common denominator, which often just cheapens the whole thing.
I hope what I wrote just now made sense. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| Yep, although in this case Islam is definitely not alone as a religion. |
Yes, but Islam is alone in having a blueprint for how the state should be organised. This is why it is so often totalitarian in nature. To many Islamic clerics, the establishment of Shariah is the noblest of causes. |
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mithridates
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| Yep, although in this case Islam is definitely not alone as a religion. |
Yes, but Islam is alone in having a blueprint for how the state should be organised. |
Plus the Vatican. That's a state. |
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bigverne
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| So remind me, how many political movements are there in the Christian world working to bring back biblical laws? Christianity has no equivalent to Shariah, which is the 'divine' law which Islamic movements in every muslim nation would like to see enacted. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:00 am Post subject: Re: No movie theatres in Saudi |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
Another reason not to live in Saudi Arabia (as if there weren't enough already): movie theatres are illegal. I didn't know that until I read this article about cafes starting to show films:
Without Cinemas, Cafe Owners fill Void
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Cinema theaters have always been an obsession for many people in the Kingdom.
Since the country��s law forbids them, some eager moviegoers have gone to extremes to catch the latest blockbuster. People in Riyadh and the Eastern Province have been known to drive all the way to Bahrain or the United Arab Emirates (UAE) just for the purpose of watching a movie on a big screen.
Others invest in projectors and set up their own cinema environment in the privacy of their homes.
The latest trend for desperate moviegoers in Jeddah is the cinema cafe. |
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Many, many years ago (early 80's??) I travelled to Saudi Arabia and the in-flight movie (only one then) was Grease or Saturday Night Fever. After all the Saudi censoring, it ran for 19 minutes. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| So remind me, how many political movements are there in the Christian world working to bring back biblical laws? |
Don't know about you heathen Brits but I know Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart and a sh*tload of other American evangelicals would love to impose their idea of Biblical law. If you got out from under your rock more often, you would know this. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| Don't know about you heathen Brits but I know Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart and a sh*tload of other American evangelicals would love to impose their idea of Biblical law. If you got out from under your rock more often, you would know this. |
They are all campaigning for the Constitution to be ditched are they? They would like democracy ditched, and elected officials replaced with clerics? Are they campaigning for the death penalty for homosexuality, adultery and apostasy?
Or are you making absurd comparisons, AGAIN?
Maybe if you weren't so blinded by cultural relativism and moral equivalence, you might notice these subtle differences.
There is no equivalent to Shariah in the Christian world, and there are no similar groups campaigning to reinstitute some of the barbarities that are part of Shariah. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
| So remind me, how many political movements are there in the Christian world working to bring back biblical laws? Christianity has no equivalent to Shariah, which is the 'divine' law which Islamic movements in every muslim nation would like to see enacted. |
Not sure why you decided to ask about that when I merely reminded you that 'only' was the wrong word to use, but since you asked some groups include Christian Voice, Christian Coalition and Christian Exodus. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Right, so those groups want to bring back Biblical punishments for apostasy, adultery and sodomy, in the same way that Shariah groups do?
Or have you joined Ya-ta aboard the moral equivalence express? |
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