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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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 Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:53 am Post subject: For those opposed to muslim immigration and whatnot |
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| Out of curiousity, how's the message they give at the mosque in Seoul? Tolerant, or not? |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Surely you should be asking muslims that actually attend the mosque.
Moreover, Korea is not such a great example as they have a tiny muslim population and hence none of the problems that come with having a large muslim population. Korea would do well to learn from the mistakes of the West and keep it that way. Seeing as they have little concern for PC sensibilities I'm sure that's what they will do. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Well, were I to ask them I suspect the answer would be:
"Sure, we preach love and compassion of course. End of story."
What I was wondering was whether being a minority keeps things mellower in there or not. I would've thought you already knew about the whole organization here. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:22 am Post subject: |
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I never ventured into the Mosque in Itaewon, and would have no idea what they were preaching anyway. I am interested in whether the Imam is actually Korean or not, and whether they do services in different languages, like Arabic.
The problem with a lot of mosques in the UK for example, is that the Imams are often from very backward areas of Pakistan and as such have very conservative views.
Why don't you go there and find out for yourself? However, I'm not sure what the policy is on infidels coming into mosques. Maybe you could do an exclusive report on the Jihad being waged from Itaewon. That would make a good story.
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| I would've thought you already knew about the whole organization here. |
I'm not really concerned about what is being preached at a single mosque in Korea, as it is not my country, and Islam is thankfully a negligible influence there. The Koreans don't have much to worry about, unlike us Brits who have to deal with large muslim organisations actively pushing an Islamist agenda. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| Right. I started wondering as I was putting up wiki articles for churches and religious organizations in the country and there was one mosque in the middle of everything. Problem is I hate Itaewon. Who knows, maybe I'll go later but I assume there are a lot more Indonesians there than the average mosque in England for example. |
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guangho
Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| They are nice enough guys. However, there are very few of them which helps to keep them nice. |
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I would advise anyone interested in that Mosque, Muslim or otherwise, to be VERY VERY VERY careful who you associate with there.
Like Big Verne says, Korea is much less concerned with PC than with protecting their citizens.
It would not suprise me if they had agents among the congregation.
Korea can also be as arbitrary as they like with denying Visas.
I'm not saying that you should not go, or that anything will happen. I'm just saying use some prudence if you do. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| It would not suprise me if they had agents among the congregation. |
Considering that they have a large force in Iraq, and hence are a terrorist target, it would be very prudent indeed to infiltrate the mosque, as mosques all over the world have been used to recruit terrorist and spread their message. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:23 am Post subject: |
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I would advise anyone interested in that Mosque, Muslim or otherwise, to be VERY VERY VERY careful who you associate with there.
Like Big Verne says, Korea is much less concerned with PC than with protecting their citizens.
It would not suprise me if they had agents among the congregation.
Korea can also be as arbitrary as they like with denying Visas.
I'm not saying that you should not go, or that anything will happen. I'm just saying use some prudence if you do. |
dude, give me a break. Showing up at the Itaewon mosque a couple times and saying, "hey, how's it going? yada yada yada" isn't going to pop up on any Korean security agency's radar screen. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| They are nice enough guys. However, there are very few of them which helps to keep them nice. |
friendliest country i've ever been to: syria. 2nd friendliest: yemen.
Common connections between the two? Full of Muslims, arabs, and dirt poor.
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Well, were I to ask them I suspect the answer would be:
"Sure, we preach love and compassion of course. End of story."
What I was wondering was whether being a minority keeps things mellower in there or not. I would've thought you already knew about the whole organization here. |
Yeah, I don't think your average sermon in the vast majority of the world focuses too much on jihad, the destruction of Israel, etc. |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| friendliest country i've ever been to: syria. 2nd friendliest: yemen. |
Out of curiousity, what do you classify as friendly? Also, did you get friendly with the ladies, or were you not willing to test just how friendly they are? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Friendly: inviting you over to socialize. Striking up coversation. That's a quick summary.
RE: the ladies. Talked to a handful but certainly didn't persue any, although a friend of mine seemed to have won over a syrian lady. Beirut is the place to go in the Arab world for that kind of thing. Yemen? eh yeah right. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea is not such a great example as they have a tiny muslim population and hence none of the problems that come with having a large muslim population |
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| I'm not really concerned about what is being preached at a single mosque in Korea, as it is not my country, and Islam is thankfully a negligible influence there. The Koreans don't have much to worry about, unlike us Brits who have to deal with large muslim organisations actively pushing an Islamist agenda. |
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They are nice enough guys. However, there are very few of them which helps to keep them nice.
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Why do you guys consider a large Islamic community as being a problem? Do all muslims condone and cause problems to you? America has an estimated 2-6 million muslims living in the country, and they still had to import the 11/9 attackers. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
Friendly: inviting you over to socialize. Striking up coversation. That's a quick summary.
RE: the ladies. Talked to a handful but certainly didn't persue any, although a friend of mine seemed to have won over a syrian lady. Beirut is the place to go in the Arab world for that kind of thing. Yemen? eh yeah right. |
While doing my CELTA, I taught a couple people from Syria He was the absolute funniest, craziest and nicest student I ever had. Aparently, he went to a supermarket in Canada and got to the checkout and asked if he could pay them back next week. Aparently, in Syria, this happens all the time. They just trust you will pay later. I am sure Syria has it's problems, but just that fact alone makes me like Syrians.
Another thing I learned from my CELTA is that refugees are the best students in the world, though you usually have to hear some god awful stories that would make even the most annoying whingers on this board stop whinging for a bit atleast. |
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