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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's "been on the verge" since 1989. Wink

A theory I heard in a poly sci class once: the more poverty striken a country is, the less likely political change is to occur. Why? Because the people are so improvished that they don't have the means to do anything about their situation. That's the case with North Korea.

And regardless of how many people are starving in the DPRK, you can count on the fact Kim Jong-Il will have a plentiful supply of rice and kimchi no matter what.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
It's "been on the verge" since 1989. Wink

A theory I heard in a poly sci class once: the more poverty striken a country is, the less likely political change is to occur. Why? Because the people are so improvished that they don't have the means to do anything about their situation. That's the case with North Korea.

And regardless of how many people are starving in the DPRK, you can count on the fact Kim Jong-Il will have a plentiful supply of rice and kimchi no matter what.



Guess we will have to wait a few years and see Cool

http://www.time.com/time/international/1996/960715/nkorea.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/11/03/korea.rating/
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lastat06513



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those 2 articles are the exact reason why the South is so hesitant to help the US in bringing down the North. They know that they would have to shoulder the burden of the millions of refugees that will pour out of its borders.
The sad thing is that they ALSO know that charity agencies and Aid agencies are not prepared to handle such a case (as seen in the tsunami and the Pakistan cases)
But, there is one way out of it.
Since it is the US that is orchestrating this calamity, they should be the ones to handle it.
Once the regime does collapse under its own weight, the US should help South Korea, Japan and China pick the slack by providing the necessary aid to help with the reconstruction of the country and possibly help with the unification process.
Though this would make South Korea look more reliant on Washington and China would be damned to see another democracy on its doorstep, it is necessary not to treat the civilians in the North as political pawns anymore and give them the necessary push toward a long lasting peace in korea and in the region.


Also....
I feel the more the South tries to play the helping brother in all this, the more people will be disappointed that it failed in the long run.
Koreans must realize that the north is not interested in getting any real help from the South, that is a painful fact that Korean people must face.

People here must understand that the more they help North Korea, the more bold it becomes and if push comes to shove, I wouldn't be surprised that the balloon would go up before the collapse of the regime~ most of history's poorest countries usually ended their regimes in a ball of fire (Vietnam 1954-1975, Afghanistan 1979-1991, Ethiopia 1977-1991, Ziare 1964-1997, Iraq 1963-2003 and Cambodia 1975-1979) Though most of the cases I have mentioned happened in the less developed regions of the world, being that the government has been kept back but tightened sanctions, the country can be catagorized as "less-developed"

This might be alot to think about, but it is becoming reality now.
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Deconstructor



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

North Korea has been blackmailing the world for many years. Ultimately, this has got to stop. The West is afraid that if a full scale embargo is imposed on NK it would feel like a cornered rat and attack. I don't see how this vermin is going to be eradicated without the loss of innocent lives, but eradicated it must be along with Iran and a few other dictatorships. It shall be the war to end all vermin.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
Those 2 articles are the exact reason why the South is so hesitant to help the US in bringing down the North. They know that they would have to shoulder the burden of the millions of refugees that will pour out of its borders.
The sad thing is that they ALSO know that charity agencies and Aid agencies are not prepared to handle such a case (as seen in the tsunami and the Pakistan cases)
But, there is one way out of it.
Since it is the US that is orchestrating this calamity, they should be the ones to handle it.
Once the regime does collapse under its own weight, the US should help South Korea, Japan and China pick the slack by providing the necessary aid to help with the reconstruction of the country and possibly help with the unification process.
Though this would make South Korea look more reliant on Washington and China would be damned to see another democracy on its doorstep, it is necessary not to treat the civilians in the North as political pawns anymore and give them the necessary push toward a long lasting peace in korea and in the region.


Also....
I feel the more the South tries to play the helping brother in all this, the more people will be disappointed that it failed in the long run.
Koreans must realize that the north is not interested in getting any real help from the South, that is a painful fact that Korean people must face.

People here must understand that the more they help North Korea, the more bold it becomes and if push comes to shove, I wouldn't be surprised that the balloon would go up before the collapse of the regime~ most of history's poorest countries usually ended their regimes in a ball of fire (Vietnam 1954-1975, Afghanistan 1979-1991, Ethiopia 1977-1991, Ziare 1964-1997, Iraq 1963-2003 and Cambodia 1975-1979) Though most of the cases I have mentioned happened in the less developed regions of the world, being that the government has been kept back but tightened sanctions, the country can be catagorized as "less-developed"

This might be alot to think about, but it is becoming reality now.


How is the U.S. "orchestrating this calamity" It was the Kims ruling policy that destroyed North Korea. Instead of wasting the massive infusions of aid from the former U.S.S.R and China, the North could have built up a strong ecomony like that of the South. But it was all wasted (or pretty much all) on the military and keeping the regime in place.

Nor would China or Russia for that matter tolerate the U.S. meddling so close to their borders. The U.S is pushing as hard as it dares. It can't do much more than it is doing already without openly atagonizing Russia and China...and it needs their help.

Even if the U.S. was responsible, the Iraq war is too expensive. It can't possibly pick up the bill for the reconstruction of North Korea.
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