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95% of Koreans Have Nothing to Do With Corruption
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: 95% of Koreans Have Nothing to Do With Corruption Reply with quote

'95% of Koreans Have Nothing to Do With Corruption'
By Kim Cheong-won, Korea Times (December 18, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200512/kt2005121817425468040.htm

Korea has as much corruption as Singapore?
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And they actually expect people who have been involved in corruption to admit it. The usual "quality" (lol) Korean journalism that I've come to expect here.

A survey about topics such as 'corruption' isn't going to get you a realistic view of whats actually happening in any society. How about spending some time researching and gathering information, like journalists are supposed to do, and give an honest appraisal of what's really happening, not just the rosy outlook on it that Koreans want to hear. A good place to start would be the dealings that many Koreans have with foreigners here.

I'm not trying to put sh#t on Korea. It's just that if they honestly believe those statistics are correct from a small survey like that, they're more gullable than I thought. No matter what country you're in, a survey like that wouldn't get you honest statistics.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The poll of 2,000 citizens and 300 leading figures was conducted at the request of the Council for the Korean Pact on Anti-Corruption and Transparency to mark International Anti-Corruption Day


The case of hearing what they want to hear.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thy this http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781359.html

Korea does very badly. Not nearly the worst, but very badly for a first world economic power. Of the major countries providing esl teachers in Korea New Zealand does the best at number two in the world.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
Thy this http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781359.html

Korea does very badly. Not nearly the worst, but very badly for a first world economic power. Of the major countries providing esl teachers in Korea New Zealand does the best at number two in the world.



Korea is classified as in the First World?
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:

Korea is classified as in the First World?

That's my own thought. You classify them as third world? Thier economic status would suggest they have joined the first world catagory, I guess. Unless you have another theory.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully we'll soon move beyond outdated First/Third World classifications.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
Thy this http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781359.html

Korea does very badly. Not nearly the worst, but very badly for a first world economic power. ... .


Just like Italy .....
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In other news, 95% of Germans had nothing to do with the Second World War.
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Bee Positive



Joined: 27 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
In other news, 95% of Germans had nothing to do with the Second World War.


Ha! Good one!

I'll just say this much, though it's purely anecdotal in nature:

In five years, I haven't had a single job here in Korea which didn't REQUIRE that I work illegally. It was either work illegally for a week or two or three before making the visa run, or work illegally off-location for a corporate client or, in one case, "Hey, guess what? We're going to tell Immigration that you're working at another location altogether, OK? Memorize the location in case you're asked any awkward questions in Osaka."

One of these employers was a very well-known law firm, another a well-established adult hakwon.

Let's just say that if my NEXT employer had me doing something illegal . . . it would hardly surpise me.

Nine-five percent of Koreans not corrupt? I doubt that five percent are anything close to law-abiding.

And no, I don't hate it here. It's mostly good. But you've gotta look at these things honestly, as I see it.


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Col.Brandon



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
In other news, 95% of Germans had nothing to do with the Second World War.


Actually, 60 years after the fact that's probably true Wink
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious about the number of parents who have bribed teachers and the number of teachers who have accepted bribes. For some reason, the number 5% doesn't leap to mind. I don't know why.
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Shooter McGavin



Joined: 22 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea always wants to be first in anything, so they should embrace the ol' corruption. This is something that they have a chance of winning for real!

But seriously, 95% sure does sound like a made-up number. And the method of obtaining it ("Excuse me sir... are you corrupt?") is a little questionable.
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rok_the-boat



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The body of every animal on the planet consists of 95% water; it's exactly that 5% that makes all the differences between us.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shooter McGavin wrote:
Korea always wants to be first in anything, so they should embrace the ol' corruption. This is something that they have a chance of winning for real!

I even gave you a link man! They dont have a hope in hell of getting close to being the most corrupt country in the world. That honor goes to Bandladesh and Chad with 1.7 out of ten. Korea gets a 5, the US a 7.6, and New Zealand a 9.6.
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