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[Paddycakes]

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/transport/article334686.ece

The English are a very bizarre people...
What is it about the "English Mind" that goes for this kind of stuff?

[Gopher]

First, we are all bizarre, dude.

Second, I don't see the big deal. The British have an excellent reputation on balancing security and democracy, and have for quite a while. They have laws that allow them to suppress some news information, for example, that we don't have in the States, and they seem to be very responsible with it. They also have a separate MI5 service in their intel community, and this, too, seems to work for them.

People may take issue with MI5's mission, capabilities, and methods, and some of these issues may be valid. And I would say that any democracy should never put these issues away, and the British haven't. But you need to also consider it's not systems like these (that is, the car-tracking system this article refs) per se as much as how they are managed and what is done with the data they produce. And, again, the British have always had a pretty good reputation with this.

The UK is in no danger of becoming a police state anytime soon. Still, we should all keep watching and questioning our govts, though.

[canuckistan]

Has anyone noticed how many cameras there are around Seoul?

[igotthisguitar]

[igotthisguitar]

In case people missed Paddycake's newslink ...

Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey
From 2006 Britain will be the first country where every journey by every car will be monitored

By Steve Connor, Science Editor
22 December 2005

Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded. A new national surveillance system will hold the records for at least two years.

Using a network of cameras that can automatically read every passing number plate, the plan is to build a huge database of vehicle movements so that the police and security services can analyse any journey a driver has made over several years.

[keithinkorea]

This is an old story. The security servives have probably had this capability for many years. I remember seeing something on the BBC years ago about number plate reading cameras, 'Tomorrow's World' I think it was.

It is a slippery slope and I don't approve on principal but it happens. Mostly this intel is used to gather information on gangster and terrorist types. Mi5 and 6 have a long history working against dangerous elements especially terrorist like the IRA.

I don't see what the fusss is really about. This technology has been around for a long time.

[keithinkorea]

This is an old story. The security servives have probably had this capability for many years. I remember seeing something on the BBC years ago about number plate reading cameras, 'Tomorrow's World' I think it was.

It is a slippery slope and I don't approve on principal but it happens. Mostly this intel is used to gather information on gangster and terrorist types. Mi5 and 6 have a long history working against dangerous elements especially terrorist like the IRA.

I don't see what the fusss is really about. This technology has been around for a long time.

The fact they are recording all the information just show how cheap data storage has become these days. The fact is that it wont do much good and the money would be better spent on other projects such as the completely knackered public transport system in the UK and training police officers not to shoot innocent people like that poor Brazilian bloke.

[Wangja]

I did read somewhere that there are more CCTV camers in Croydon than New York.

How many screen watchers are there?

[Gopher]

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[igotthisguitar]

Britain To Recruit Spies From Video Game
Thu Oct 18, 3:06 AM ET

LONDON (AFP) - One of Britain's intelligence agencies will embed advertisements into popular video games this month in a bid to attract new recruits, The Times reported on Thursday.

The Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), Britain's intelligence listening post, will embed the adverts as billboards in video games including "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent" in a bid to attract "computer-savvy, technologically-able, quick-thinking" recruits.



"We find increasingly we have to use less conventional means of attracting people ... to go beyond glossy brochures and milk-round stalls," a GCHQ spokeswoman told the newspaper.

The advertisements will not be written into the games themselves, but will instead be fed into them while they were played on personal computers or Microsoft Xbox 360 consoles ... connected ... to ... the Internet.

"We will monitor the results from this campaign and are ready to change our recruitment methods ... We know we can't stand still," the spokeswoman said, adding that GCHQ hoped to "plant the idea in the heads of younger players".

The Times said that GCHQ declined to specify how much the month-long campaign would cost, but cited industry sources as saying it would likely cost in the low tens of thousands of pounds.

Britain's other intelligence agencies have slowly emerged from the shadows in recent years -- the country's foreign intelligence service MI6 placed its first-ever advertisement for jobs in a newspaper in May, and in recent years it has launched its own website and accepted job applications online.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071018/wl_uk_afp/britainintelligenceadvertisingrecruitoffbeat_071018070634

[Gunther]

[patongpanda]

This is a real poster not a Photoshop:

[Mix1]

[Cheonmunka]

That's a really telling poster though. I mean, here in Korea the poster is a Mickey Mouse character which says, "We are close by." The British poster's, "... Beneath the Watchful Eyes," is somewhat sinister or even menacing.
"We are close by," a translation I make from memory of the poster I saw at the subway station is something like, '경찰들이 가까워되었어요.' The Korean style is in my mind a meaning, 'We are there when you need us,' maybe taken literally - 'Police officers are close by you.'
It's a far different context than the British's, 'We are watching you.'


This in reply with my mind activated by the post about there being 'more cameras in Korea.'

[ED209]

That poster was created for London Transport. Many bus drivers are attacked and robbed as are passengers, vandalism is also prevalent. It makes sense to put cameras on these buses. As I recall it was a shot taken from one of these cameras that helped capture one of the London bombers and police appeals to capture other criminals will often show stills from LT cameras.

I don't like the idea of being photographed 600 times a day just going about my business, I certainly don't want to be tracked. But if they removed these cameras from the buses and tube I wouldn't feel as safe.