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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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| I had 80% attendence rate for my camp this summer and won a prize for my last set of camps from my education office. My school takes the camp very seriously and is expecting me to win again. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
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Cooking day?
Game board day?
I'm just doing the regular lessons that I would be doing otherwise. |
Are you kidding? I am constantly bombarded by the kiddies about cooking day. Grades 1 through 4 are doing no cook stuff while 5 and 6 are doing actually cooking. You should see how angry the grade 4's were when they saw they only had 2 recipes while grade 5&6 had 3 
But seriously, it is a good way to integrate imperatives and instructions. |
Nope not kidding. I just found out MY schedule today.
3 80 minute classes everyday. 1st class: Grades 1&2 (40 or so)
2nd class Grades 3&4 (20 or so) Grades 5&6 (as of yet to be determined)
I was given absolutely no materials. Since I had already had to shell out for the books for my extra-cirrucular classes and I shell out every now and then for candy (for the kiddies) I think I deserve a break. If they want me to cook, they'd better supply the materials and a Korean supervisor. I am probably the world's worst cook. Getting toast to brown properly is a major enginnering feat for me. 
Throw 40 or so children into the equation and that's a disaster just waiting to happen. |
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Return Jones
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: I will see you in far-off places
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| crazylemongirl wrote: |
| I had 80% attendence rate for my camp this summer and won a prize for my last set of camps from my education office. My school takes the camp very seriously and is expecting me to win again. |
If they're kicking you to the curb in about 6 weeks because you're a women (as you mentioned previously), why kiss their butts? Do a good job, but do it for the kids. With all of the horror stories you've posted in the past, I doubt they'll be giving you a glowing reference anyway. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| Return Jones wrote: |
If they're kicking you to the curb in about 6 weeks because you're a women (as you mentioned previously), why kiss their butts? Do a good job, but do it for the kids. With all of the horror stories you've posted in the past, I doubt they'll be giving you a glowing reference anyway. |
1. Just got a great reference off my K' Teachers there (principal is the butt munch who makes my life miserable).
2. Having stuff like awards looks good at any job interview.
3. I can't do a medicore job (Type-A personality). |
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mack the knife
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| 3. I can't do a medicore job (Type-A personality). |
Serious heart attack/stroke material. Seriously. Why beat your skull against a brick wall? A brick wall with nails sticking out of it. |
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Return Jones
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: I will see you in far-off places
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| crazylemongirl wrote: |
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If they're kicking you to the curb in about 6 weeks because you're a women (as you mentioned previously), why kiss their butts? Do a good job, but do it for the kids. With all of the horror stories you've posted in the past, I doubt they'll be giving you a glowing reference anyway. |
1. Just got a great reference off my K' Teachers there (principal is the butt munch who makes my life miserable).
2. Having stuff like awards looks good at any job interview.
3. I can't do a medicore job (Type-A personality). |
That's good. I'm just saying you should perform for the kids, not for the buttmunch or some dubious award from the ����û. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| It's an ethical problem. Something I never have because I always do what is best for me in any situation. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| Oh boy! Sounds like good times. Look for a good hagwon (maybe an oxymoron) if you want to work again here for another year. I'm doing winter camp three hours/day in the morning and then my regular shift from 2. Thing is, I get paid 50% more for it and they're just conversational classes. And only 10 students per class. My boss isn't anal about lesson plans. In fact, he's never mentioned them. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| crazylemongirl wrote: |
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If they're kicking you to the curb in about 6 weeks because you're a women (as you mentioned previously), why kiss their butts? Do a good job, but do it for the kids. With all of the horror stories you've posted in the past, I doubt they'll be giving you a glowing reference anyway. |
1. Just got a great reference off my K' Teachers there (principal is the butt munch who makes my life miserable).
2. Having stuff like awards looks good at any job interview.
3. I can't do a medicore job (Type-A personality). |
You work too hard. Too much time into it can be self-defeating. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| How do you teach 40 kids a language they can't speak at once anyway? You'd need about five heads with Stretch Armstrong necks. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh boy! Sounds like good times. Look for a good hagwon (maybe an oxymoron) if you want to work again here for another year. I'm doing winter camp three hours/day in the morning and then my regular shift from 2. Thing is, I get paid 50% more for it and they're just conversational classes. And only 10 students per class. My boss isn't anal about lesson plans. In fact, he's never mentioned them. |
Many people who are working in the public school system cut their teeth on a hakwon. Yes "a good hagwon" is an "oxymoron". The VAST majority will try to get away with paying you as little as they can, while working you as much as they can. Spent four years in the hakwon system and while I won't say "never again" I much prefer public schools (at least mine)
As for winter camp I am only doing 3 80 minute classes which I prefer to your schedule above. Good luck. Split shifts can be murder. (50% MORE?) You really lucked out with your hakwon. As for lesson plans most hakwon foreign teachers don't have to do them. That's the Korean teachers job (as they are considered "real" teachers). At least that's been my experience. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| Oh boy! Sounds like good times. Look for a good hagwon (maybe an oxymoron) if you want to work again here for another year. I'm doing winter camp three hours/day in the morning and then my regular shift from 2. Thing is, I get paid 50% more for it and they're just conversational classes. And only 10 students per class. My boss isn't anal about lesson plans. In fact, he's never mentioned them. |
Many people who are working in the public school system cut their teeth on a hakwon. Yes "a good hagwon" is an "oxymoron". The VAST majority will try to get away with paying you as little as they can, while working you as much as they can. Spent four years in the hakwon system and while I won't say "never again" I much prefer public schools (at least mine)
As for winter camp I am only doing 3 80 minute classes which I prefer to your schedule above. Good luck. Split shifts can be murder. (50% MORE?) You really lucked out with your hakwon. As for lesson plans most hakwon foreign teachers don't have to do them. That's the Korean teachers job (as they are considered "real" teachers). At least that's been my experience. |
Yeah, my winter camp classes are 80 minutes each. I teach the first class 9:30-10:20/10:30-11 and the second class 11-11:50/12-12:30. These are just conversation classes, so they won't be a headache. It'll be easy since I have my notebook connected to the net, a printer (mine) and TV (mine). "Pets and Animals for 100, Alex" (hee hee). I've done the same shift before (August summer camp) on top of my regular afternoon to evening shift. It was quite stressing. I was angry then though since I thought I should've been paid more (100,000 under half). It'll be better this time. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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What I love is how they forget all the extra hard work you did during the year when it is time for a new contract. You bust your butt and then they shaft you a few months later for a couple of won. I have done camps that gained huge new interest in the school and they made huge money, but then screwed me over when it was time to pay for the work.
Don't fool yourself when they give those large fake praises....their admiration and respect disappears fast. I take it when they give it but I always remember the way it it. |
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