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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:07 pm Post subject: Bush bubble burst by troubled 2005 |
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| George Bush has no doubt had his share of difficult years before, but in political terms 2005 must go down as his worst year in office. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4550302.stm
I bet he's glad this year is over.
Only 1,123 days to go. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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I liked these points from the end of the article:
1. The Iraqi parliamentary elections have turned out to be a resounding success.
2. Moreover much of the security for the voting was provided by newly trained Iraqi troops.
The administration has already outlined the exit strategy from Iraq: as Iraqi troops stand up, American soldiers can stand down.
3. it is possible that the insurgency will lose its quorum of support and become marginalised.
4. Meanwhile the economy has refused to tank. US growth is robust.
5. The spirit of 9/11, when the administration wrapped every political move in the Stars and Stripes and even the opposition was afraid to ask awkward questions, is wearing off.
Makes me think the republic will survive after all. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| 4. Meanwhile the economy has refused to tank. US growth is robust. |
Always is after massive government spending. One reason wars are so poplar and happen at nice, regular intervals. Beware the hangover. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| Makes me think the republic will survive after all. |
I am hoping for much the same despite my constant carping on the negative. If torture at Abu Ghraib and the near-genocide of Falluja and the (literally) countless civililan casualties has any positive effect toward making the world better than it was, I will be in the first wave of those rethinking prior positions. However, I need to point out that there seems to be no evidence so far that this is the case, and a lot that suggests the opposite.
In the end, all and any such progress that makes life better for the Iraqi people is being paid for in loss of lives by American soldiers (mostly), loss of blood and future ability for those those soldiers permanently maimed, loss of gelt for American taxpayers who will be paying for this adventure for years to come, and loss of prestige for our nation around the world due to HOW it was done.
There are times when a person hopes like the bejeezus to he wrong, and I've wanted that ever since the day the bombs started flying over Iraq, but I've simply heard, read and seen far too much and far too often that has shown me that my own country will not benefit a lick from all this and instead will be hurting for a long time for no good reason.
I'm open to hearing about any good reasons ... all the reasons I've heard so far have not been good at all.
End this thing. End it now. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think it's such a bad thing that Bush has three more years to screw around - he's not in a position to start any more major wars, and now more and more of the blame that he rightly deserves will fall flatly on him. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| I don't think it's such a bad thing that Bush has three more years to screw around - he's not in a position to start any more major wars, and now more and more of the blame that he rightly deserves will fall flatly on him. |
But that is precious little comfort for the hell the next 50 years is likely to be. |
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