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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Count your blessings! Things could be a lot worse than having a great girlfriend who has a good job. You won't be working there forever, don't be dumb and break up with her because of a temporary inconvenience. |
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capebretoncanadian

Joined: 20 Feb 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Count your blessings! Things could be a lot worse than having a great girlfriend who has a good job. You won't be working there forever, don't be dumb and break up with her because of a temporary inconvenience. |
I definitely don't plan to. She's a wonderful girl and the fact that I've continued to see her since she came back is a testament to that fact. I just wish she was a head teacher elsewhere. On the positive side, I'm sure she'll fight vigorously for my side if I get into an argument with my boss.  |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:58 am Post subject: |
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i have done it a couple of times before as well...never had any problems, it is all to do with the maturity level of you and the female..if both can act like adults before,during and after then it will be fine
My current gf I met at work and it has worked out fine....
If you want to just ask her out, you only get one life |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:15 am Post subject: |
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My wife of twenty-one years and I started out as co-workers. Remember, that was 1984 in Korea, and the society was exceedingly conservative. She and I were penpals for a year before I first went to Korea, as I wanted to write to someone on the faculty of the school. I also ended up boarding with her family, and she was my guide, interpreter, and best friend (still the latter!). That we would eventually marry was a foregone conclusion.
However, at the school where we taught (a Korean Christian boy's high school), we tried to give the illusion that we were only friends. She would obviously publicly ignore me; even though I knew it for what it was, it still hurt a bit. Even after we had our clerical marriage (in July of '84), she and I had to pretend to be single. It was only after our church wedding in October of that year did everyone know (we also had a ceremony in November for my family in the States--I joked with her this year that we celebrated our 63rd wedding anniversary ).
It was hard having a relationship with a co-worker, but in our case it worked out well.
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Never done it, but couldn't convince anyone I wasn't dating the coworker who taught me Korean. The school didn't care, but the kids always wanted to know if we were in love, and eventually I received subtle orders to be discreet. |
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seoulkitchen

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:00 am Post subject: coworkers come in all shapes, sizes, and colors! Wheeee! |
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Would you date a W coworker?
How about an A or C coworker?
I highly advise not dating a Q coworker, it can get messy so I've heard.
I think J coworkers are pretty cool to date though, very discreet.
F coworker, been there done that, yawn.....
Had a friend who dated an A2 coworker, very fun.
You should just stick to dating a regular ol' cowanker. You'd have fun with that... |
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Whether you date or not is up to you, but some employers would fire both of you on the spot if they found out. In typical Korean style, even if there is no rule against fraternizing with the enemy (aka the foreigners at school), they will tell you you are in trouble after you have done it. I had a friend who dated a Kgirl, and they had to be careful even around town because they often saw their studetns around. It just seems like a whole lot of stress if you aren't really serious about the girl. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:59 am Post subject: |
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CLG, I think you are a worrier. The days of lifetime employment at one company are long gone. I've dated coworkers and never had a problem. Of course, be mature about it. Don't compromise the girl or her reputation. |
1. We are in Korea. Standard rules of engaement don't apply. Co-workers, bosses, and potential partners thrown into the normal mix of cross cultural misscommunication that occurs in most work places doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that things are going to play out ok.
2. Even working for a few months with an ex could be miserable. Thus unless you are really thinking that this could be 'the one' it's not really worth putting yourself through that when there are millions of other girls/guys on this small piece of land. |
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n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Location: Poh*A*ng City
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:00 am Post subject: |
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My situation is slightly different, I think...
I'm going on three months here, for whatever reason my coworkers (a total of 4, all very attractive Korean women), and my bosses (a married couple) seem hell bent to set me up.
The husband, er owner, has been praying to whatever God he believes in that I'll go out with his niece. It's at the point where it's become flagrant, her showing up at school to help out, being there when he invites me out to dinner, making fun of her boyfriend when I'm around, having us do shots together... the list goes on, and shes not bad looking, but that is definately a line I don't plan on crossing.
The coworkers (save for her) are equally as bad, always starting conversations and inquiring as to my "luck", or telling me how to go about asking Korean women out, where the good places in town are to go if I'm trying to find single women, telling me about their friends, and informing me as to what her plans are (all four of the teachers seem to have been friends for quite some time), when shes free, etc. Tis gone so far as for them to casually mention that I should ask her out, in front of her.
Now after three months of this, I'm starting to get a little worn down, and she is drop dead gorgeous. So I'm toying with the idear, anyhow, just not entirely sure how to go about it: asking her out directly, and being obvious, or biding my time and being my usual nefarious self until such a time that an oppurtunity exists where it will only be a veiled reference.
As for office gossip and the whatnot, I dont really care... never have about such petty things, and until such a time that I make up my mind... well, the bar crowd works for me
Would I date a white coworker? Hell no, not unless she was utterly exceptional, for if I wanted to date white women I would have stayed in America.
Oh... and crazy... I agree with you, I really really really do... however, the big head doesn't. |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:05 am Post subject: |
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My philosophy is never dip your pen in the company ink. I personally wouldn't do it, I don't need the extra hassle, but whatever tickles your pickle.
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zappadelta

Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:46 am Post subject: |
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asking her out directly, and being obvious, or biding my time and being my usual nefarious self until such a time that an oppurtunity exists where it will only be a veiled reference.
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If you're gonna do it, then do it. When I say do it, I mean ask her out. Only if you want to do it, not because you feel pressured to do it by others, but you are really interested in her and want to get to know her better. If you are only in it for the nookie, then I wouldn't recommend it. You never know until you go out with her if you want to get to know her better. If you are not compatible for some reason, be honest with her and tell her your intentions. |
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LL Moonmanhead
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Location: yo momma
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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I fooled around with a korean collegue a couple of weeks ago. We're both cool with it, obviously we keep it to ourselves. The key is as others have mentioned being extremely discreet. If you can do that, go for it. |
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n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Location: Poh*A*ng City
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Zappa, my man... Lets put it this way, shes good looking enough for me to take the gamble and see whether or not there is anything there to get to know. "The nookie" factor, while enticing, is not my sole motivation.
As for pressure? I don't feel any, but my meaning in mentioning it is that I am, at this point, well aware of the interest on her part. So it's not exactly like shooting in the dark.
What kind of offsets me is that this wouldnt be, by any means, a secret, from either the other employees, or my employers. This would definately be a public relationship, or date, from the word Go... which is a little intimidating. |
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Teufelswacht
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:04 am Post subject: |
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capebretoncanadian wrote: |
joe_doufu wrote: |
Count your blessings! Things could be a lot worse than having a great girlfriend who has a good job. You won't be working there forever, don't be dumb and break up with her because of a temporary inconvenience. |
I definitely don't plan to. She's a wonderful girl and the fact that I've continued to see her since she came back is a testament to that fact. I just wish she was a head teacher elsewhere. On the positive side, I'm sure she'll fight vigorously for my side if I get into an argument with my boss.  |
Or, get you fired if she gets angry at you for any reason. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:27 am Post subject: |
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She's got the upper hand, not only because of nepotism, but because she shares a common language with the majority. If she wants to spread a rumour about you somewhere down the line, you'll be unable to a) understand the people stabbing you in the back b) defend yourself adequately.
Hell hath no fury like a Korean woman scorned, or so I've heard.
Romances are so very easy to start, but I find they're much harder to end neatly.
In this case, it seems like there would be a great deal of pressure on both if you. If you asked her out, EVERYONE would know, and if a second date did not result, EVERYONE would want to know why. These are tough circumstances under which to start a relationship, particularly a casual one. |
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