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biscuit



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:32 am    Post subject: Cancer Reply with quote

I've been paranoid about cancer lately. It seems like everyone I know back in Canada is dealing with it in some way. I looked up some stats on the internet and it seems that the risk is so much lower for Koreans than for North Americans and I'm wondering why. The air is so bad here. Everyone smokes and drinks a lot. Why is the cancer rate so low here? Does it depend on diet alone?
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a post about it about 3-4 months ago. Korea actually has an extremely high cancer rate, at least among males. Most cases seem to tend to be stomach cancer as well, I believe. When you look at the diet of people, I think it is easy to see why.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be stress, not their diet. Although I'm sure that too much smoking and drinking may not be too beneficial either.
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Cancer Reply with quote

biscuit wrote:
I've been paranoid about cancer lately. It seems like everyone I know back in Canada is dealing with it in some way. .......................................................................................................................................................... The air is so bad here. Everyone smokes and drinks a lot.



why be paranoid about getting cancer?? maybe you are under too much stress and its time you went home? you need a break - but then I guess there has been many airplane accidents lately - you would become paranoid about your airplane crashing.....

yeah... many korean males smoke - but so do many foreigners - however with Asian males they are luckier... they mainly smoke (female ciggarettes) that is menthol or 1mg - compared to foreign males who smoke such things as Marlboro 12mg and higher etc -

Asian people have a gene in their blood that allows/and retains nicotine in their blood system for a longer peiod of time than caucasians - hence they usually only have a few puffs of a 1mg ciggarette before throwing it away - whereas a caucasian person tends to smoke the entire 12~15mg ciggarette.

The nicotine in the caucasian persons blood depletes much quicker and hence the caucasian person feels the crave to have another ciggarette much sooner than the Asian person (another full 12~15mg ciggarette - whereas the Asian person just has another couple of puffs of a 1mg ciggarette - usually only one-third of the ciggarette)....

hence why westerners have a higer lung-cancer rate - but asian people have a higher stomach-cancer rate - when you study the spicy-hot food they devour.....
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mom was just diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer.

I just got back from a quick two week trip to Canada.

It's an odd thing, once you tell people that someone close to you has cancer, you are flooded with similar stories.

It's a club I'd rather not be in.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my father had colon cancer, they caught it early and removed it

regular check-ups and early diagnosis is the key with that kind of cancer, deadlier than breast cancer in women is colon cancer in men

encourage everybody in your family who is 50 or older to get diagnostic tests done, now, waiting for symptoms could be too late

really
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biscuit



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so sorry about your mom Captain Corea.
I'm waiting to hear about my dad. An x-ray found a big mass on his lung so they did a ct scan. I'll hear the results in a few days. I'm very worried.
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Grimalkin



Joined: 22 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both of my father's parents died of cancer. My father at 75 is the youngest of four brothers none of whom (so far) have contracted cancer.
I think this is due to a positive effort on all their parts to avoid getting it, like quitting smoking, and consuming a lot of foods with flavanoids and other anti-oxidents reputed to protect against cancer.

So sorry about your mother Captain Corea.

I hope you get good news Biscuit

And to the OP, cancer runs (at least it's believed that some people have a genetic predisposition) in both sides of my family but I dont worry about it. I try to stack the odds in my favour and then after that it's 'que sera sera'.

I'll probably be runover by a bus!
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biscuit



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes, I think it's only for stomach cancer that Korea has a high cancer rate. For the others it seems quite a bit lower. And overall the rate is quite a bit lower. http://www3.who.int/whosis/mort/table1_process.cfm
If you compare all cancers in Korea and Canada for the year 2000 for men the morality rate was 218(C)/155(K) and for women 188(C)/88(K). That's quite a difference...
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biscuit



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander, your dad was really lucky to have caught it early enough. Thanks for the reminder and I'll definately talk to people I know that are over 50 about getting that test. I know it's a really embarrassing test to get done and nobody wants it but it's so much better than dying...
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps Koreans are particularly susceptible to other forms of death that come before cancer... such as auto accidents, alcohol poisoning, and civil war?
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Cancer Reply with quote

biscuit wrote:
I've been paranoid about cancer lately. It seems like everyone I know back in Canada is dealing with it in some way. I looked up some stats on the internet and it seems that the risk is so much lower for Koreans than for North Americans and I'm wondering why. The air is so bad here. Everyone smokes and drinks a lot. Why is the cancer rate so low here? Does it depend on diet alone?


Maybe in general, but for throat, stomach, and gastro-intestinal types of cancer, the stats are way high in Korea.
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margaret



Joined: 14 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to hear about your mom, Captain Corea. My mom died of cancer of the esophagus at the age of 52. She was a 4 pack a day chain smoker and alcoholic.
Margaret
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

margaret wrote:
I'm sorry to hear about your mom, Captain Corea. My mom died of cancer of the esophagus at the age of 52. She was a 4 pack a day chain smoker and alcoholic.
Margaret


My mom is 56. Smoked for 34 years... and still smoking I think.
Thanks for the well wishes all. I have a feeling I'm going ot have to go back to CDN soon.
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