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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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respondents gave anti-Americanism among Canadians as the second most important reason they were inclined to stay at home.


Is that really a surprise to anyone?
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Bee Positive



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
gypsyfish wrote:
I've noticed that when the word pronunciation is mispronounced, it's always Canadians who do it. They say proNOUNciation, instead of proNUNciation. I'd heard it so much, I even looked it up to see if there was an alternate pronunciation. There's not. (Controversy, on the other hand can be pronounced CONtroversy or conTROVersy.)

Not all Canadians say it wrong, but if it's mispronounced, it's a Canadian.


Just noticed this. It could also be a Brit though.

ColOUr--------------------color
honOUr-------------------honor

The above MIGHT be why we say PronOUNciation as opposed to pronunciation.



I worked with a teacher from London, England who also mispronounced the word. You could cut the irony with a knife: an English teacher mispronouncing pronunciation!

It's nun, not noun, in the center. Even Canadians should be able to manage this.

Come to think of it, I have yet to meet an intelligent Canadian. And I've worked with a lot of them here in Korea. A single example which comes to mind is the gal from Saskatoon, or wherever, who thought that the island south of Australia on the map she'd hung on one of her classroom walls was New Zealand. (It's Tasmania.) What bothered me was that she was teaching this to her students.

It gets worse. A Korean-Canadian woman whom I worked with at a law office here, a UBC grad, mind you, wrote up legal briefs in which she identified New York City as the capital of the United States (I kid you not!), persisted in making this error even after I'd pointed it out to her, identified "Columbia" (with that spelling) as a country in South America (we were doing legal work for the clothing firm of that name), and so on and so on and so on.

It may be a generalization, and definitely isn't nice to say, but Canadians seem to be quite lazy. They're more or less all kind of sallow and pale and lacking in ambition and not overly concerned about details. Ill-adapted to life on planet earth, in a phrase.



BEE POSITIVE
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, happy new year to you, too.

Freak.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bee Positive wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
gypsyfish wrote:
I've noticed that when the word pronunciation is mispronounced, it's always Canadians who do it. They say proNOUNciation, instead of proNUNciation. I'd heard it so much, I even looked it up to see if there was an alternate pronunciation. There's not. (Controversy, on the other hand can be pronounced CONtroversy or conTROVersy.)

Not all Canadians say it wrong, but if it's mispronounced, it's a Canadian.


Just noticed this. It could also be a Brit though.

ColOUr--------------------color
honOUr-------------------honor

The above MIGHT be why we say PronOUNciation as opposed to pronunciation.



I worked with a teacher from London, England who also mispronounced the word. You could cut the irony with a knife: an English teacher mispronouncing pronunciation!

It's nun, not noun, in the center. Even Canadians should be able to manage this.

Come to think of it, I have yet to meet an intelligent Canadian. And I've worked with a lot of them here in Korea. A single example which comes to mind is the gal from Saskatoon, or wherever, who thought that the island south of Australia on the map she'd hung on one of her classroom walls was New Zealand. (It's Tasmania.) What bothered me was that she was teaching this to her students.

It gets worse. A Korean-Canadian woman whom I worked with at a law office here, a UBC grad, mind you, wrote up legal briefs in which she identified New York City as the capital of the United States (I kid you not!), persisted in making this error even after I'd pointed it out to her, identified "Columbia" (with that spelling) as a country in South America (we were doing legal work for the clothing firm of that name), and so on and so on and so on.

It may be a generalization, and definitely isn't nice to say, but Canadians seem to be quite lazy. They're more or less all kind of sallow and pale and lacking in ambition and not overly concerned about details. Ill-adapted to life on planet earth, in a phrase.



BEE POSITIVE


I don't usually do this (attack other countries) but BeePositive is just such an a$$ I feel the need to...

I like to watch Jeopardy. One time, the final Jeopardy question was "What is the largest commercial city of Eastern (Atlantic, can't remember which) Canada?". First, I was shocked this was even a final Jeopardy question, but OK.
Person 1: Halifax, good on you.
Person 2: St. John's, ha, but I think he meant St. John which could be a viable guess if said correctly (St. John's is in Newfoundland).
Person 3: Quebec, not even Quebec city, he named a province.

So some Canadian didn't know where Tazmania is, I bet most Canadians, Americans, Brits, and even a few Australians don't either. The rest of the post is even less worthy of being responded to.
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just love the way that it is commonplace and popular for Canadians and Canadian media to portray Americans as idiots, but when someone incinuates that there might be idiots in Canada, well, God forbid... Rolling Eyes

Not all Canadians are idiots, but neither are all Americans.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pligganease wrote:
I just love the way that it is commonplace and popular for Canadians and Canadian media to portray Americans as idiots, but when someone incinuates that there might be idiots in Canada, well, God forbid... Rolling Eyes

Not all Canadians are idiots, but neither are all Americans.


If this is a response to my post, please reread BeePostive's. He was not saying that "some" Canadians are idiots (which some are, just like there are idiots all over the world).
But just for fairness, what's wrong with us portraying Americans as idiots, ever watch the Simpsons or South Park or other numerous movies which portray Canadians as incredibly simple and stupid. The thing is I think most Canadians laugh at this just as most Americans laugh at ours. It's only uptight people with very little self esteem who really care. One of my favourite Simpson's segments is the one where they go to little America (Toronto). They were driving in a cart and Marge says "I didn't know you drove on the left side in Canada." and the driver says "naw, I'm just drunk, eh?". (that's not exactly what it was, but the general idea).
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
Pligganease wrote:
I just love the way that it is commonplace and popular for Canadians and Canadian media to portray Americans as idiots, but when someone incinuates that there might be idiots in Canada, well, God forbid... Rolling Eyes

Not all Canadians are idiots, but neither are all Americans.


If this is a response to my post, please reread BeePostive's. He was not saying that "some" Canadians are idiots (which some are, just like there are idiots all over the world).


I know. I read it. However, I think that the blanket statement about one country being idiots almost always comes from Canadians toward Americans. Our blanket statement is that all Canadians are anti-American and jealous of the U.S. Laughing

laogaiguk wrote:
But just for fairness, what's wrong with us portraying Americans as idiots, ever watch the Simpsons or South Park or other numerous movies which portray Canadians as incredibly simple and stupid. The thing is I think most Canadians laugh at this just as most Americans laugh at ours.


Two cartoons make jokes about Canadians, but they both make more fun of Americans than Canadians. How many Canadian T.V. shows make Americans look like idiots while portraying Canadians as enlightened souls? (I don't know because I've never watched Canadian T.V.)
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pligganease wrote:

I know. I read it. However, I think that the blanket statement about one country being idiots almost always comes from Canadians toward Americans. Our blanket statement is that all Canadians are anti-American and jealous of the U.S. Laughing


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Two cartoons make jokes about Canadians, but they both make more fun of Americans than Canadians. How many Canadian T.V. shows make Americans look like idiots while portraying Canadians as enlightened souls? (I don't know because I've never watched Canadian T.V.)


More than cartoons. Polictal satires, Jay Leno, many movies, etc... but it is usually in good fun. If you would watch Canadian TV (most of which is American actually Smile ), you would see that almost all of our satires or comedy shows make much more fun of ourselves than anyone else. You should see "This hour has 22 minutes", boy do they go after "our" politicians. Your information is coming from some very biased or stupid sources.
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shortskirt_longjacket



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Pro-American Candain Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
shortskirt_longjacket wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Canada's far from the greatest country on earth and it's government is screwed up in some ways, but it's still a lot less worse than the US.


Obviously not when it comes to teaching grammar and syntax.


"Less worse" has become commonly accepted grammar in Canada when it comes to discussing America.


Maybe that's because you guys are "less smarter."
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's "insinuate," genius.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Pro-American Candain Reply with quote

shortskirt_longjacket wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
shortskirt_longjacket wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Canada's far from the greatest country on earth and it's government is screwed up in some ways, but it's still a lot less worse than the US.


Obviously not when it comes to teaching grammar and syntax.


"Less worse" has become commonly accepted grammar in Canada when it comes to discussing America.


Maybe that's because you guys are "less smarter."


There's even a song that goes "It's not that we are better, it's just that we're less worse".
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bee Positive wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
gypsyfish wrote:
I've noticed that when the word pronunciation is mispronounced, it's always Canadians who do it. They say proNOUNciation, instead of proNUNciation. I'd heard it so much, I even looked it up to see if there was an alternate pronunciation. There's not. (Controversy, on the other hand can be pronounced CONtroversy or conTROVersy.)

Not all Canadians say it wrong, but if it's mispronounced, it's a Canadian.


Just noticed this. It could also be a Brit though.

ColOUr--------------------color
honOUr-------------------honor

The above MIGHT be why we say PronOUNciation as opposed to pronunciation.



I worked with a teacher from London, England who also mispronounced the word. You could cut the irony with a knife: an English teacher mispronouncing pronunciation!

It's nun, not noun, in the center. Even Canadians should be able to manage this.

Come to think of it, I have yet to meet an intelligent Canadian...

BEE POSITIVE


And I yet have to see an intelligent post from you.
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
It's "insinuate," genius.


Good comeback. Right up there with, "Your mama." Witty, aren't you?
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo mama.
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Yo mama.


Laughing

Touche.
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