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JLE
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Under The Volcano With a Cup of Tea
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 Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: Fresh meat needs recruiter check |
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New teaching-creature here! British, male, debt-ridden, searching in Korea...
I've read the numerous warnings about recruiters but decided to risk it for a biscuit as i'm not 100% confident about the alternative of just turning up and burning much-needed cash searching.
Anyway, several contacts, a few interviews and so-far a painless experience and some friendly people. But, before i dive in with the sharks, can i get some advice please.
I've read a little here about People Recruit who have thrown lots of alternatives at me, remained unpeturbed by my irritating fussiness, and (if one ignores several 7:30am phonecalls) have been great (if a little manic: one of the girls always sounds as if she's permanently had too much sherbert...). (Site here: http://peoplerecruit.com/e_home/home.php).
The other i'm dealing with is EFL2Korea
http://www.efl2korea.com/index.html
...who are dangling a tempting job in front of me.
I was wondering if anyone here could give either recruiter the thumbs-up, or recall any horror stories.
Along the same lines: Does the Sullivan/Compukid school of English in Jeon-ju bring back happy memories or set alarm bells ringing with anyone?
Thanks in advnce, Feel free to PM if it's all too gory! |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| Don't worry about the recruiter, worry about the school they offer. Check out the schools, ask the right questions, talk the current foreign teacher. Then review the contract for red flags. |
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JLE
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Under The Volcano With a Cup of Tea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Ok, noted. Cheers. I suppose my worst-case-scenario detector is imagining recruiters and schools in cahoots to entrap me... 
Google and searches aren't turning up anything at all on this particular school though but i did get contact details for current staff so...
...time to use 'em. |
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StAxX SOuL
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: London
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi..
I can't really assist with any advice but as I am in a similar predicament to yourself I am interested in the turnaround that these agencies have provided and also the job offers that you've received, namely city & salary
Cheers! |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
| Don't worry about the recruiter, worry about the school they offer. Check out the schools, ask the right questions, talk the current foreign teacher. Then review the contract for red flags. |
This is excellent advice. Even though you are stony broke, it's a good idea to have some cash to tide you over till payday or in case of emergencies.
I had a good experience with English Work.com, but I know others who didn't. So, it is really the luck of the draw. Investigate as much as you can and talk to those all important current foreign teachers.
If you are new to teaching, you may also want to know if you will teach from a textbook or make you own lessons. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Remember that your first school will probably be temporary. You will do a year and then find something better. When you come for the first year, just learn a lot and tough it out. Even if you get the best school in Korea..it can still be difficult. Expect that things will not work to your happiness everytime.
The real truth is that even if you check the school and teachers and everything..it can still be bad. Schools can go from good to bad in a heartbeat..sometimes they go from bad to good (not many). Just tough it out and get your money and experience.
Just do your best to research the school and come on over to try it. No one can give real information about a head hunter company because everyone has different situations. People really don't know, except that David from Omega is bad. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
| Don't worry about the recruiter, worry about the school they offer. Check out the schools, ask the right questions, talk the current foreign teacher. Then review the contract for red flags. |
I agree.
The recruiter can only bring you to an employer. You know his income depends on getting you to sign a contract with a school so obivously you're not going to believe much the recruiter says about the school.
They will hide truths more than lie but they will lie too. They will also try to force you to make a hurried decision. They may tell you that the school has a few other teachers they want to hire but they want you most of all. But it must be quick!! Fly out this week!!
But in the end, it's about the contract the employer offers you. Not what the recruiter says. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Fresh meat needs recruiter check |
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| JLE wrote: |
New teaching-creature here! British, male, debt-ridden, searching in Korea...
I've read the numerous warnings about recruiters but decided to risk it for a biscuit as i'm not 100% confident about the alternative of just turning up and burning much-needed cash searching.
Anyway, several contacts, a few interviews and so-far a painless experience and some friendly people. But, before i dive in with the sharks, can i get some advice please.
I've read a little here about People Recruit who have thrown lots of alternatives at me, remained unpeturbed by my irritating fussiness, and (if one ignores several 7:30am phonecalls) have been great (if a little manic: one of the girls always sounds as if she's permanently had too much sherbert...). (Site here: http://peoplerecruit.com/e_home/home.php).
The other i'm dealing with is EFL2Korea
http://www.efl2korea.com/index.html
...who are dangling a tempting job in front of me.
I was wondering if anyone here could give either recruiter the thumbs-up, or recall any horror stories.
Along the same lines: Does the Sullivan/Compukid school of English in Jeon-ju bring back happy memories or set alarm bells ringing with anyone?
Thanks in advnce, Feel free to PM if it's all too gory! |
I haven't dealt with People Recruit myself, but I have a friend (who doesn't post here) who did. They dumped him in a bad school which cheated him on his airfare, pension and medical insurance. After five months of getting shafted he gave notice. The school called People Recruit who threated him saying "if you leave this school you will never work in Korea again." Up to this point People Recruit (according to him) had been quite nice.
I got a couple of Korean friends to accompany him to the school and he was able to secure a LOR. About two weeks later he was able to find a job in Seoul and is still employed there.
That's only a second hand account though, so take it with a grain of salt.
As for ELF2 Korea I really can't say. That doesn't ring any bells. But when dealing with any recruiter exercise due diligence and check out the school first. Talk to former and current teachers (one on one) if you can manage it. If they are not willing to do this that should be a red flag. Also look at the contract carefully. Many times red flags can be raised by a careful reading of said contract (though not always). |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: EFL2Korea |
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Stay away from this company! They assured me that the B.C.M. in Nampo-dong, Busan, was a great place. The manager, Mrs. Kim, was a total witch and the contract was a useless piece of paper.
The woman who recruited me was named Sally. She bragged to me about going to Toronto, Canada, on a tourist visa to look for work but she admitted to me that she knew that I knew she was off to Toronto to set up an illegal office for EFL2Korea. |
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excitinghead
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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