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[Tiberious aka Sparkles]

This pretty much reinforces that the raising and slaughter of cows, pigs, and chickens is no more humane than the "savages" who raise and kill dogs for food.

Sparkles*_*

[peppermint]

[Rteacher]

Hmm... a thread on cruelty to animals, and "peppermint's" avatar is caressing what appears to be a whip...

[Dan The Chainsawman]

The only animals that whip has seen I bet is the two legged variety.



Quick question on vegan eating, any tips for good high protien dishes with no meat? (I like red meat, but I have cut back on it quite a bit for health reasons, but needs more protien than normal for weightlifting.)

I know tofu does the trick, but I only know so many ways to make tofu appealing.

[peppermint]

are you implying men are animals, rteacher?

baked or frozen and then crumbled tofu are about the only ways I deal with the stuff, personally.

Beans and grains together make for a fairly high protein meal. Red beans and rice, or felafel and tabbouleh, etc.

[Qinella]

[Tiberious aka Sparkles]

[Satori]

[SPINOZA]

[hack]

I taught at a uni in rural Korea where the nearby farms raised both cattle and dogs for eating. I once asked a senior conversation class with about 12 students in it to debate the following topic:

"Raising dogs for human consumption is no worse than raising cows for human consumption."

I could only get 2 proponents from the class and got 7 opposition and 3 abstainers.

So the debate was 2 on 2.
The points made were based more on how these animals are killed than raised which was fine with me but I thought making that the topic with that focus would have been too controversial, but I was fortunately wrong.

The best line I can remember from the debate was something akin to this
"Most people my age I know who eat dog do it because it is just another way to show westerners that we are unique and eating dog upsets them. In most of Korean society, dog eaters are viewed as throwbacks. In fact the Ministry of Agriculture has declared that dogs and cats are pets, not livestock (but they didn't have any concrete evidence of that so i didn't allow it as a point but later 1 of them showed me something in Korean that said it backed up her point.-still not sure about this but it seemed valid) Perhaps we must change the way we kill livestock, but we can never do that until we change the outdated view that it is an acceptable practice to kill pets so that they can be eaten."

The debate got very heated at 1 point when 1 of the audience called 1 of the proponents a name in Korean which I found out meant something like "old barbaric animal." In the end, I declared it a draw-I actually had the opposition ahead on points but felt sorry for the proponents because it seemed it was them against everyone else and they managed to "debate with dignity" -something that I always underscored should be the overall concept of debating.

The debate was excellent but I was surprised to see just how embarassed most of the students were about the whole dog-eating thing. The class dynamic after that was quite interesting with the 2 proponents being shunned by everyone else. But I also had to consider that these students were about the best English speakers in the school and were all probably on their way to working for Korean companies based in North America so their point of view might be slanted. Also, the 2 proponents were male, the 2 opposition female and 5 of the other 8 in the class were female. Of the 3 abstainers-2 were male so really there was just 1 male of 5 in the class who disagreed with the concept of eating dog. Maybe this whole dog eating thing is just testostorene working overtime.

Interestingly enough, none of them seemed to have any problem with eating beef or how they were slaughtered-not even the proponents.

I tried to repeat the debate with similar classes in the following semesters but could never get more than 1 proponent. Again, the classes were female dominated.

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[peppermint]

[Rteacher]

I think "Peppermint" made reference to tabbouleh. For a long time (a couple years...) I tried to find bulgur (cracked) wheat in Korea but I couldn't locate any. (I did find large bags of regular cous-cous, but that lacks the wheat germ that makes bulgur so healthy...)

I intended to look for some in Thailand - where I know they have it - but I spaced out... In winter, cooked bulgur is the best. The Armenian recipe I got from my mother involves sauteeing some shredded vermicelli noodles in butter, stir-frying the bulgur for a few minutes, then adding water and salt and steaming like rice for about 15 minutes. I eat it with plain yogurt (which I make myself in Korea) and way too much sea salt...(I credit eating lots of bulgur for making me the strongest guy on my high school football team - but, of course, that was many moons ago...)

So, if anyone knows where I can get some, please post it here or PM me...

[peppermint]

I've never found it either, but they serve tabbouleh at Petra's, and you could ask them where they get theirs, I'm sure.

All else fails, you could order from www.bobsredmill.com