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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: Anti-American Canadians? |
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Preface: I am a former enlisted United States Marine who also attended the Marine Corps Officer Candidates School; my resume is thick with military courses and awards.
Recently I had a phone interview with a Canadian ��English Spokesman�� for a school that I was very interested in. Said Canadian was very short with me and our "interview" lasted only a minute or two. She focused her questioning on my military experience; not why I was interested in teaching and traveling to Korea.
My impression: I believe the aforementioned Canadian skimmed my resume, combined my American nationality with my military experience, and classified me as the stereotypical warmongering, sovereign-nation-invading, Wal-Mart stockholding, tobacco lobbying, gun-wielding American.
The truth: I served in the military because I felt compelled to ��pay for�� all the freedoms and opportunities that have come with American citizenship. I chose the Marine Corps because I wanted to challenge myself. I am nothing like the American stereotype.
Summary: Canadians, it is not cool to label people. Especially when you��re a group of pasty, beer drinking, hockey playing, pancakes smothered in maple syrup eating second-class citizens living in America��s northernmost state. |
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syclick

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anit-American Canadians? |
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Mills wrote: |
Summary: Canadians, it is not cool to label people. Especially when you��re a group of pasty, beer drinking, hockey playing, pancakes smothered in maple syrup eating second-class citizens living in America��s northernmost state. |
So... you were treated badly by one Canadian, and you come here to tell the rest of them off? Grow up and learn some manners.
And I'm American. |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Mills- welcome to the board. Boy, will you have fun. There's plenty of Canadians here that will make your stay most welcome.  |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Anit-American Canadians? |
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I'm a Canadian and most of my friends here are American soldiers. There are some things I let them get away with and some things I don't. I don't care if you eat McDonald's, because so do I, or shop at Walmart, because so do most Canadians. Calling us the 51st state, though, them's fightin' words. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Anit-American Canadians? |
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Preface: I am a former enlisted Canadian soldier who wanted to attend the Officer Candidates School... but that's another story. My resume is thick with military courses.
The truth: I served in the military because I felt compelled to ��pay for�� all the freedoms and opportunities that have come with Canadian citizenship. Also, my grandfather and father have served. So did a few of my uncles, one of which was one of the highest ranked non-commissioned officers in Canada...but that's another story. I wanted to share that experience with them. When it does come up in a conversation, many people will say the know someone who has served, but employer simply don't care.
Summary: It might not be because you're American. My military record is essentially worthless when it comes to finding a job in Canada. Employers simply don't care that I had High Secret clearance or that I know how to take down an enemy jet while armed with nothing but a sewing needle, a roll of duct tape, and a can of beer.
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Why did you put your military experience on a resume when your applying for a teaching job?
That answers your question right there. Especially if you listed all your awards. That's great and everything, but again how does it apply to a teaching job? |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
Why did you put your military experience on a resume when your applying for a teaching job?
That answers your question right there. Especially if you listed all your awards. That's great and everything, but again how does it apply to a teaching job? |
Exactly my point. You only put what's relevant to a job on a resume. |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think the previous poster may have a point. I can understand why you feel your military experience is an accomplishment to be proud of, but remember the purpose of a resume is to help you land the job. That's all it's for, that's all it's worth.
For example, if I were the religious type, and I highlighted (over-highlighted?) all of my experience and accomplishments in a particular church in my resume, it might give some companies...well, the willies. I've done a lot of volunteer work with environmental groups over the years, but I wouldn't overemphasize it too much in a resume. They'd wonder why I was putting all of this stuff in my resume if it wasn't directly related to the job I was applying for, and/or wonder why I'm not explaining how this experience would relate to the job requirements.
Maybe your resume just needs a bit of fine-tuning? Good luck in your job search either way!
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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What's an Anit-American Canadian? |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Why did you put your military experience on a resume when your applying for a teaching job? |
From some of the teaching stories I read on Dave's, maybe military experience might be a good thing in some of these hogwans!
I'm sorry the Canadian interviewer was such an arse to you. But you know, there are 32 million of us.. not all of us have issues!
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anti-American Canadians? |
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Mills wrote: |
Summary: Canadians, it is not cool to label people. Especially when you��re a group of pasty, beer drinking, hockey playing, pancakes smothered in maple syrup eating second-class citizens living in America��s northernmost state. |
Is there an insult somewhere in there?
Maybe a bit of an insult that you didn't include "beer drinking, peace loving, lumberjacks" other than that, thanks for the kind words.
Seriously though, some Canadians are dicks, some are cool. Just like every other country. |
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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
Why did you put your military experience on a resume when your applying for a teaching job? |
My resume doesn't say "I can kill a man from 500 yards with an M16A2 service rifle".
I graduated from high school in 1997 and college in 2004; I thought they might get the impression that it took me 7 years to graduate from college if I didn't list my military experience. Also... If the United States government trusted me to lead Americans into combat, I believe a hagwon should be able to trust me with students. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Anit-American Canadians? |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
I'm a Canadian and most of my friends here are American soldiers. There are some things I let them get away with and some things I don't. I don't care if you eat McDonald's, because so do I, or shop at Walmart, because so do most Canadians. Calling us the 51st state, though, them's fightin' words. |
But truth hurts, doesn't it, you person from the 51st U.S. state?
That said, I'd hire an American over a Canadian in Korea as the latter usually brings nothing to the table other than English.
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: Anti-American Canadians? |
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To finish off though, for your last paragraph (and YaYa), that doesn't really help at all. Did you post to complain or actually try to change something. And most definitly, Canadians have significantly more rights than that Bush administration you voted in is taking away from you guys. Canadians enjoy more freedom than Americans at the moment
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Holy crap. It was a joke. Sorry, just got off of a 2 week vacation and haven't turned my brain on yet. I am really sorry 
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Anti-American Canadians? |
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Mills wrote: |
Preface: I am a former enlisted United States Marine who also attended the Marine Corps Officer Candidates School; my resume is thick with military courses and awards.
Recently I had a phone interview with a Canadian ��English Spokesman�� for a school that I was very interested in. Said Canadian was very short with me and our "interview" lasted only a minute or two. She focused her questioning on my military experience; not why I was interested in teaching and traveling to Korea.
My impression: I believe the aforementioned Canadian skimmed my resume, combined my American nationality with my military experience, and classified me as the stereotypical warmongering, sovereign-nation-invading, Wal-Mart stockholding, tobacco lobbying, gun-wielding American.
The truth: I served in the military because I felt compelled to ��pay for�� all the freedoms and opportunities that have come with American citizenship. I chose the Marine Corps because I wanted to challenge myself. I am nothing like the American stereotype.
Summary: Canadians, it is not cool to label people. Especially when you��re a group of pasty, beer drinking, hockey playing, pancakes smothered in maple syrup eating second-class citizens living in America��s northernmost state. |
Dude, no reason to have to explain yourself to people from such an insignificant country like Canada. Canada could disappear tomorrow and MAYBE the world would notice in a year. |
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