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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: *sigh* gotta go on strike |
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My boss failed to pay me at all today. The past two months she's paid a token couple hundred thousand on payday, and paid in installments. In November it took two weeks to pay in full, in December three weeks. But today... zero.
I hate to do it... I'd rather have my hands clean so nobody could criticize me. But I guess I'll have to play hardball and just not go to work for a few days. You know what did it, was that she told me she couldn't pay me yet because she hadn't paid the Korean teacher, Grace, in over two months now. Man that just sucks. It's not like we're partners in the business. No wonder Grace hasn't been too friendly to me lately.
I'm going to call in the morning and tell them that if my pay isn't ready by starting time (3:40) that I'll be taking time off indefinitely. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like the right thing to do to me. GL to you bud.
Did you go to UBC?
Just want to ask a question about their School. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| Wrench wrote: |
Sounds like the right thing to do to me. GL to you bud.
Did you go to UBC?
Just want to ask a question about their School. |
No! USC... Southern California, not South Carolina. That's the Trojans, not the C0cks. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| joe_doufu wrote: |
| Wrench wrote: |
Sounds like the right thing to do to me. GL to you bud.
Did you go to UBC?
Just want to ask a question about their School. |
No! USC... Southern California, not South Carolina. That's the Trojans, not the C0cks. |
Sorry your hat looks like UBC. |
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Col.Brandon
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| It might pay to lodge a claim with the labour Dept. just in case things get nasty and your boss starts to sling some accusations your way. That way, you got in first. |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| What you need to do is go to her office and refuse to work. Just sit there. That way it narrows down her excuses when she fires you and renigs on paying. Might also look better to the labor board. |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| What you need to do is go to her office and refuse to work. Just sit there. That way it narrows down her excuses when she fires you and renigs on paying. Might also look better to the labor board. |
Had to do exactly this last month when the boss was several days late paying me. Had the money in the bank within 15 minutes of my "strike".
Skint my arse, he had the money all the time.
My next payday is tommorow, hopefully we can avoid a repeat performance. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| What you need to do is go to her office and refuse to work. Just sit there. That way it narrows down her excuses when she fires you and renigs on paying. Might also look better to the labor board. |
Good idea. I can bring along my knitting. I'm working on a sweater and I could go for hours. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| Just curious, how many students are enrolled in your school? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe, from what I have heard of your school, it had been on a slow decline for quite some time now (enrolment wise). I'm impressed you've lasted this long. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Joe, from what I have heard of your school, it had been on a slow decline for quite some time now (enrolment wise). I'm impressed you've lasted this long. |
Me too!
I made the call to my boss just now (noon. work is supposed to start at 3:40). It's difficult, like hurting an animal or something. She said "how can you say that?" and "do you want to quit?" and "I have nobody left to borrow from." So... well I don't know what'll happen.
The enrollment was about 40-45 last time I counted. They pick up new ones sometimes but no faster than they lose students. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| joe_doufu wrote: |
| She said "how can you say that?" and "do you want to quit?" and "I have nobody left to borrow from." So... well I don't know what'll happen. |
That sounds very sad. Is she generally a horrible person? That would make walking away easier. But if she's trying to do her best based on a bad business plan, that's rather depressing. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| joe_doufu wrote: |
| She said "how can you say that?" and "do you want to quit?" and "I have nobody left to borrow from." So... well I don't know what'll happen. |
That sounds very sad. Is she generally a horrible person? That would make walking away easier. But if she's trying to do her best based on a bad business plan, that's rather depressing. |
I know. I decided not to hold a sit-in because I don't think I could take the sad-puppy eyes all afternoon long. So I'm staying home until they call me to pay my salary (or send police to evict me from the apartment). What pushed me over the line was when I heard they hadn't paid the Korean teacher for two months. Last month they also told me they hadn't paid the rent on the hagwon.
These things indicate to me that these people don't believe they have to pay their bills. They'll stretch their credit with everybody (including me) and when they close their doors they'll leave us with nothing. They need to borrow X million won from the bank to pay their bills, and draw a line in the sand... "if we lose X million more won, we close the shop."
BTW the owners are a husband-wife couple, but the wife is the only one who speaks English or teaches, so I often say "she" is my boss. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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These things indicate to me that these people don't believe they have to pay their bills. |
I've mentioned this before but once I was out for lunch with my boss and she hid behind the table's center piece. She spied an owner from an old hagwon. She explained how she was working at his school a couple years ago. One month he came to all the teachers and explained how his school was in a tough spot and all the teachers had to agree to skip their salary for that month. They tightened their belts and agreed.
The month they went without pay, he took a month off to go on holiday in Europe! The school wasn't having problems. He just got his employees to finance his exotic vacation.
When he came back, all the teachers quit en mass.
Yeah, some people get into business, decide owning a business means they must know something about money, lease matching BMWs, live pretty high on the money of the investors, and then run the business into the ground. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| Don't feel sorry for her, if she can't run a business properly then she should never have opened a hagwon in the first place. Fact of the matter is that she owes you a certain amount of money for wages every month and she should pay up or let you go. If she doesn't, tell her where to go. I wouldn't be surprised if she lives in a nice apart and drives around in a swank car. |
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