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Snowkr



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: deductions from salary? Reply with quote

hi everyone

I have a question regarding income taxes in Korea. If you're making 2.0 million monthly is it normal to have between 50,000 and 70,000 taken out for income tax and 40,000 taken out for health insurance?

I trust my employer completely and I love my school but I feel like I'm paying a lot in taxes. Then again, I'm a bit of a novice and have only been at this for 5 months so perhaps this really is normal!

Any input please?
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the post Tax rate under FAQ

income tax on 2 mil is about 30,000 a month

health is 1.8% which is about 36,000 a month

Taxes also dont fluctuate from month to month on a set salary!
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Snowkr



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!

It appears as if I am paying quite a bit more in income tax.

Do teachers get any of their tax dollars back in this country?

Also, what is this pension plan? I hear mixed things around my city about it like, certain foreigners from certain countries get a refund but others can't...

as an American, can I apply for pension refund? I couldn't find the info (sticky) here!

more help is always appreciated!
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Check the post Tax rate under FAQ

income tax on 2 mil is about 30,000 a month


Technically, it should be 482,950 plus 48,295 for a second inhabitants tax. A total of 531,295 annually, or 44,270 monthly. Exactly.

Though that's technically tax fraud, as you are suppose to report all benefits and that includes housing. A person living in a 400,000 Won per month officetel would actually have a tax liability of 1,178,540 annually not including any overtime or other bonuses.

Confimation of my both my numbers and taxes on all benefits can be done at any local tax office.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe youre right Gord but shh! lets not wake the sleeping bear. Till now I have never heard of any foreign teacher being taxed on "free" benefits.

I assume employers file tax returns on our behalf but it never comes to our notice. In my home country (Canada) tax deductions are based on an estimate of our tax obligations which we straighten out personally at tax time. Wherever youre from, I'm sure you know the routine -- you get extra claims, credits, etc & crunch the numbers to end up with a refund or a balance due.

Some employers here evidently deduct high & pocket the return, because we're transient & dont know to ask. (Some deduct & dont pay in anything at all, but thats a different issue.)

One can, I assume, be proactive & insist on dealing with one's own tax return. Best luck -- tax forms in english-speaking countries are already like a foreign language, imagine in a 2nd language!

Major credits are, however, handed out here for medical expenses & receipted credit card use. If you think you might be high-end in either category, it might be worth roping in a Korean friend to assist.

My pay gets docked at 2% & I dont hear anything about it at year-end. Think I'll tiptoe round that bear.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free housing isn't taxeable. Housing allowances, however, may be since it's money they give you.

I'm being taxed too much and have brought it up to the owner several times. I'm just going to hit him at tax time by bringing my pay sheets to the tax office. Why create a big fuss now over 40 or so thousand Won a month. It's like money in the bank.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Technically, it should be 482,950 plus 48,295 for a second inhabitants tax. A total of 531,295 annually, or 44,270 monthly. Exactly.

Though that's technically tax fraud, as you are suppose to report all benefits and that includes housing. A person living in a 400,000 Won per month officetel would actually have a tax liability of 1,178,540 annually not including any overtime or other bonuses.

Confimation of my both my numbers and taxes on all benefits can be done at any local tax office.


Lets just compare ol gord's numbers to the http://www.nts.go.kr/eng/default.html website shall we?

Monthly with holding tax on 2 mil is: Monthly Income Tax : �� 28,950
(will be deducted from Wage & Salary Income by your employer)

Hmmm not near the 44,270. Oh but wait we have added on the .03 inhabitance tax....so lets do that....28.950x1.03=29,818.5 Shocked hmm thats still way below that 44,270 number that gord put up Confused

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Gross Wage & Salary Income
16,800,000

Deduction for Wage & Salary Income
10,270,000

Adjusted Wage & Salary Income
6,530,000

Basic Deduction
Taxpayer him/herself

1,000,000

Spouse

0

Dependents
0 persons
0

Additional Deduction
The Aged(65~69)
0 persons
0

The Aged(70~)
0 persons
0

The Handicapped
0 persons
0

Woman

0

Child Care
0 persons
0

For Small Dependents
1,000,000

Pension Premium Deduction
1,080,000

Special Deduction
Insurance

0

Medical Expenses

0

Education Expenses
Taxpayer

0

College Univ.
0 persons
0

Elem~High School
0 persons
0

Kindergarten
0 persons
0

The Handicapped

0

Housing Funds

0

Charitable Donations

0

Marriage,Funeral Service and Expenses

0

Total (or Standard Deduction)

1,000,000

Income After Deduction
2,450,000

Personal Pension Plan Deduction
0

Pension Plan Deduction
0

Investment Association Deduction
0

Credit Card Usage Deduction
0

Employee Stock Ownership Association Contribution Deduction 0

Taxable Income
2,450,000

Calculated Income Tax
220,500

Tax Credit and Exemption �� ���װ���
Total of Tax Exemption
0

Tax Credit for Class A
121,275

Taxpayer's Association Credit
0

Home Mortgage Interests
0

Long-term Stock Savings
0

Tax credit for Donations to Political Fund
0

Total of Tax Credit
121,275


Income Tax
Special Tax
Total

Final Tax Liability
99,225
0
99,225

Pre-paid Tax
374,000
0
374,000

Taxes Due
-274,770
0
-274,770



Paying 27,940 a month in taxes has you ending up with a 274,770 tax credit Confused maybe i'm just bad at math Question

Well that monthly witholding tax and year end tax done.....using the National Tax Service...I guess they dont know what they are talking about....maybe we should just blindly go with what gord says Rolling Eyes
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gord's numbers are basically correct and match the NTS. Grotto's numbers do not. The 30% deduction he took at the outset is for foreign workers. E2 Visa holders are generally residents under the tax law, and not eligible for this 30% credit. The withholding tables often quoted by Grotto are not accurate and do not reflect your ACTUAL tax liability. They are estimates only.

Be glad, however, that you are a resident under the tax law. Non residents are legally subject to a mandatory 20% withholding under the tax law for personal service income such as teaching.

Every person's tax liability will depend on his or her personal circumstances. The Korean income tax is Global for residents (most teachers). That means you pay Korean tax on all your earnings from every source worldwide, just like a Korean. Everyone here wants equal treatment with the locals. You got it here. Most teachers, of course, being "unemployable refugees from English speaking monkey land" (This is meant to be a funny aside not to be taken seriously. Some people here have million dollar investment portfolios at home.) have no other income.

The Korean tax rates range from 9% to 36% on your taxable income. There are substantial deductions for low income workers like E2 teachers.

Gord's calculation still shows a net income tax rate in the area of 2.3% for the year. Even that is an estimate. Your actual numbers would include your overtime income, deductions for you actual medical premiums paid, deductions for pension contributions paid, deductions for spouse, children and whatever applies to you. (And, of course, you have to pay tax on your dividends and capital gains from your million dollar investment portfolio, even if it's held off-shore.)
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Paying 27,940 a month in taxes has you ending up with a 274,770 tax credit Confused maybe i'm just bad at math Question


I wouldn't know if you are good at math or not, but selecting the 30% deduction for foreign workers (as you are claiming 16,800,000 which is 70% of 24,000,000) is an error as income earned under E2 visas is taxed as though the person was a resident and not a foreign worker.


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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Shocked Tough thread for Grots. All that time wasted.

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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto posted on another thread that he actually got the 30% credit. A Korean accountant has confirmed that teachers may be eligible for this, even if they were here all year. I'm not sure if it applies to everyone on an E2, but it really lowers the year end income tax liability. Does anyone else have actual experience with this? Did you try it and get it? Did you try it and have your 30% tax credit denied?
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
Free housing isn't taxeable. Housing allowances, however, may be since it's money they give you.

It is in the US. That is, you need to include the value of your employer-provided housing when filing your US taxes. I still come out way below US$80,000.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what? What has US tax law got to do with Korea?
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I look at is is Korea is full of people who dont know their jobs, the laws or how things are supposed to be done.

Use it for your advantage if, when and where you can.

Dont let the naysayers on this board tell you "that this is the proper way things are done" as they often have no clue.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I have to declare my "free" Korean housing on my US taxes, I just find it surprising that it is not declared on Korean taxes.
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