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Anti-American Canadians?
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
To Chiaa:
I was in an angry mood. I thought about it and decided not to bother posting it. Funny that you saved it. You must live on Esl Cafe because I changed it in like 10 seconds.


Just good timing. Very Happy Actually when I hit the quote button is was already gone, but the back button in my browser still had it.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must remember not to post in a bad mood. I can have some serious black moods. Even I don't always agree with some of the things I have posted. I was angry and posted it in a fit of rage....then changed it when I didn't really want to say the message. I was shocked when you actually could save it..I really did change it in 10 seconds. Razz
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a simple question.

When an American and a Canadian meet in a Korean expat bar, which one is usually the first to throw the stone?

Which one looks at the person and sees the nation?

Which one looks at the person and sees the person?

Edit: I'm aware that there is usually a cultural explanation for individual opinions or actions, so the question of nationality isn't completely irrelevent. However, there is a difference between observing a person and trying to put their words/actions into some sort of cultural context, and assuming that someone is automatically going to conform to a cultural stereotype before one has had the chance to prove otherwise.


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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it kind of cute that this forum has become a playpen where grownup yanks and canucks can revert to their inner child and throw a tantie or spit the dummy. Have fun kids.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know if it's been said since this thread went it's predictable way....but to the OP: you wouldn't have even got a phone interview if the canadian in question 'hated' americans.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
i don't know if it's been said since this thread went it's predictable way....but to the OP: you wouldn't have even got a phone interview if the canadian in question 'hated' americans.


Please stop using logic, you will destroy everyone's fun Wink
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Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
i don't know if it's been said since this thread went it's predictable way....but to the OP: you wouldn't have even got a phone interview if the canadian in question 'hated' americans.


Why? Most phone interviews are done at the request of the owner or director and not at the discretion of the teacher. That is why the teacher was doing the interview. The act of performing the interview in itself has no bearing on the teacher's like or dislike of Americans; it was just something she was told to do.
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Mills



Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
to the OP: you wouldn't have even got a phone interview if the canadian in question 'hated' americans.


I had spoken to the school's Director (Korean) previously and things went well. The Canadian is the head teacher at the school; I believe the only reason she even bothered to call is because her boss told her to, she was just going through the motions because she had a preconceived notion of who I am.

I'm not as offended much as I am surprised... I'm from the Puget Sound area in Washington State, a fuzzy zone of nationality where CBC and PBS television signals mix freely and 18 year-old American high school students regularly make the weekend trek to Vancouver for the legal consumption of mass quantities of alcohol�� anyway, I��m much more in line with majority Canada politically than I am with majority America (especially in November of 2004).

Maybe I got it wrong... maybe she just hates men. Crying or Very sad
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mills wrote:
the eye wrote:
to the OP: you wouldn't have even got a phone interview if the canadian in question 'hated' americans.


I had spoken to the school's Director (Korean) previously and things went well. The Canadian is the head teacher at the school; I believe the only reason she even bothered to call is because her boss told her to, she was just going through the motions because she had a preconceived notion of who I am.

I'm not as offended much as I am surprised... I'm from the Puget Sound area in Washington State, a fuzzy zone of nationality where CBC and PBS television signals mix freely and 18 year-old American high school students regularly make the weekend trek to Vancouver for the legal consumption of mass quantities of alcohol�� anyway, I��m much more in line with majority Canada politically than I am with majority America (especially in November of 2004).

Maybe I got it wrong... maybe she just hates men. Crying or Very sad


Pligganease wrote:

Why? Most phone interviews are done at the request of the owner or director and not at the discretion of the teacher. That is why the teacher was doing the interview. The act of performing the interview in itself has no bearing on the teacher's like or dislike of Americans; it was just something she was told to do.


One, you can read the mind of someone you talked to for 30 minutes, more, less? Please tell me how you got that power?

Two, head teachers are usually pretty busy and hate doing interviewing and giving the boss advice. You have no idea what the situation is there.

Three, and most importantly, ever done anymore than 4 interviews? It's annoying and tiresome. How do you know the interviewer wasn't...
1) Just having a bad day
2) You were the last interview and he/she was sick of asking the same questions
3) She had already found the perfect candidate in a previous interview(now this is still wrong, but it happens a lot in North America in almost every profession).

Four, while your resume looks sound and you seem like a good person, you might suck at interviews. I have seen people in interviews and I swear my dog could have done a better job (really, the dog can't speak and make a fool of himself Wink )
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Mills



Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

your resume looks sound and you seem like a good person,
Oh, thank you...
Quote:
you might suck at interviews.
Crying or Very sad
Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad That stings...

...but no, I do not suck at interviews.

Maybe she was having a bad day, cool, I accept that, but I'm not imagining things... her attitude, tone and questioning were all negitive and focused on my military service, not my desire to teach.

Anyway, I'm over it. Crying or Very sad
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mills wrote:


Anyway, I'm over it. Crying or Very sad


Absolute best thing possible Wink
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The Great Toad



Joined: 12 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Toad wrote:

"Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr mewowwww"

"Mewwwo! Meoww!"



WOOF!
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Former US soldiers with BA's done by distance during their time in the service have applied at my university over the years. They have never even been granted interviews. I don't think a degree from a school without an actual campus or a recognisable name is helping you.

You haven't even touched on your desire to teach.

If I joined the Marines (cough, hack, ahem) and all I wanted to talk about was teaching, I don't think I'd get very far.

I've been through several interviews for side jobs recently. Most of them were quite humiliating experiences. Interviewers have hidden agendaes and maybe even certain numbers of people they have to interview before making a decision even though they already know who they want.
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HapKi



Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
I don't think a degree from a school without an actual campus or a recognisable name is helping you.


Right...so much better to get hired from a phony diploma like so many Canadians over the past year.

What is a "recognizable name", anyway?
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