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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: Anti-Americanism has little economic impact |
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The author argues that the economic effects of anti-Americanism are negligible, despite the professed desire of Europeans to avoid American products.
http://www.slate.com/id/2134151/
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Two distinguished political scientists, Peter Katzenstein (from whom I took a class in introductory international relations half a lifetime ago) and Robert Keohane, set out to investigate whether American companies were suffering because of American policies. They're editing a book, Anti-Americanism in World Politics, to be published this fall by Cornell University Press. In one chapter, they trot out anecdotal evidence of European hostility to U.S. products. "It is plausible to believe that people who feel hostile toward the United States would be reluctant to purchase products form American firms, especially those products associated strongly with the United States," they write.
To put the hypothesis to the test, Katzenstein and Keohane examined 2000-2004 European sales figures of three major U.S.-based consumer products firms (Coca-Cola, McDonald's, and Nike) and three major European-based consumer products firms competing in similar fields (Cadbury Schweppes, Nestlé, and adidas-Salomon). In the GMI report I wrote about last year, Coca-Cola and McDonald's were squarely nestled in the problem quadrant—identified in the survey as companies that were seen as highly American and that European and Canadian consumers said they'd be likely to avoid. Nike barely avoided the problem quadrant.
In the time period studied, the European sales of all six firms rose. But the sales of the U.S. firms grew more rapidly. From 2002-2004, Coke's sales in Europe rose 37 percent, McDonald's rose 31 percent, and Nike's rose 40 percent. By contrast, adidas-Salomon's Europeans sales rose about 8 percent, Cadbury Schweppes' rose 28 percent, and Nestlé's rose about 2 percent—albeit off a gigantic base. What's more, "all three American firms increased the share of their [overall] revenues deriving from Europe." In other words, as they were demonstrating against U.S. policy and telling market researchers they'd boycott Coca-Cola and McDonald's, Euros were increasingly lacing up their Nikes to walk down to McDonald's, where they'd wash down the junk food with a supersized Diet Coke. The conclusion: "Reports of consumer anti-Americanism damaging sales of U.S.-based firms in Europe are highly exaggerated."
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JAWINSEOUL
Joined: 19 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think that is just another case of people who talk the talk but don��t walk the walk. I had a co-worker who hated America with a passion (I��m Canadian) but my company was owned by an American Corporation. Her salary was direct from the good old U.S.A. So basically people should not bite the hand that feeds them
If you hate America while your lips are on their on their ass, you are a hypocrite and a phony. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| JAWINSEOUL wrote: |
I think that is just another case of people who talk the talk but don��t walk the walk. I had a co-worker who hated America with a passion (I��m Canadian) but my company was owned by an American Corporation. Her salary was direct from the good old U.S.A. So basically people should not bite the hand that feeds them
If you hate America while your lips are on their on their ass, you are a hypocrite and a phony. |
It's not quite that easy. America (and many 'Westerners, including Americans') are quite friendly with China, even though they continuously blast it's human rights, tying the yuan to other currencies, etc etc... But to ask America to cut off all contact with China would be impossible. Your opinion is that they are all phony, and I can't dispute that, it is your opinion. But I think there is more to it than what you posted. If you have ever bought anything made in China or been at the good end of anything that trade with China helped, then that means you can't talk about their government, human right issues, etc... |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| JAWINSEOUL wrote: |
I think that is just another case of people who talk the talk but don��t walk the walk. I had a co-worker who hated America with a passion (I��m Canadian) but my company was owned by an American Corporation. Her salary was direct from the good old U.S.A. So basically people should not bite the hand that feeds them
If you hate America while your lips are on their on their ass, you are a hypocrite and a phony. |
It's not quite that easy. America (and many 'Westerners, including Americans') are quite friendly with China, even though they continuously blast it's human rights, tying the yuan to other currencies, etc etc... But to ask America to cut off all contact with China would be impossible. Your opinion is that they are all phony, and I can't dispute that, it is your opinion. But I think there is more to it than what you posted. If you have ever bought anything made in China or been at the good end of anything that trade with China helped, then that means you can't talk about their government, human right issues, etc... |
Why not just criticize the U.S. or China or whoever else constructively and without the moralizing, the condescension, or the bitter contemptuousness that the "anti" people always seem to bring to the debate?
Then hypocrisy and other things like defensiveness become something more akin to a nonissue and people can just exchange ideas in a respectful and professional way. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| JAWINSEOUL wrote: |
I think that is just another case of people who talk the talk but don��t walk the walk. I had a co-worker who hated America with a passion (I��m Canadian) but my company was owned by an American Corporation. Her salary was direct from the good old U.S.A. So basically people should not bite the hand that feeds them
If you hate America while your lips are on their on their ass, you are a hypocrite and a phony. |
It's not quite that easy. America (and many 'Westerners, including Americans') are quite friendly with China, even though they continuously blast it's human rights, tying the yuan to other currencies, etc etc... But to ask America to cut off all contact with China would be impossible. Your opinion is that they are all phony, and I can't dispute that, it is your opinion. But I think there is more to it than what you posted. If you have ever bought anything made in China or been at the good end of anything that trade with China helped, then that means you can't talk about their government, human right issues, etc... |
Why not just criticize the U.S. or China or whoever else constructively and without the moralizing, the condescension, or the bitter contemptuousness that the "anti" people always seem to bring to the debate?
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Because then we are at a disadvantage when the "pros" start up with the "moralizing, the condescension or the bitter contemptuousness".  |
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