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The Great Toad
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Bee Positive
Joined: 27 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Meanwhile,
So many people are dead over there in Iraq.
And they keep dying every day.
Those who don't die are maimed, blinded, deprived of limbs, scarred for life |
I do feel bad about the children too- How can a warrior feel anger towards a four-year-old? however you need to understand that thousands of people are NOT being tortured by professional tortures in Iraq because The Crusaders and Forces of Hell: The Devil Dogs overthrew the man who ruled by fear Stalin style... purge 1 , purge 2 ..... Saddam would cycle his own regular loyal followers through the torture mill for a few months as a matter of business. Tell me do you know what was on the close captioned televisions in the holding cells ? What else: torture videos and who were the innocents being tortured... I shudder to say it there is no greater evil yes small children were on these films ... and who made the videos ahh well they were all home made.
American chairforce clowns miss and frag innocents they scream and are killed but guess what no one was filming it and no one was approving it. Admittedly some of my Brother Marines have gone to the Dark Side of the Force ... I think to the Devil who capped the wounded man caught on a reporters film - He was in Warrior Mindset Mode. But I never met anyone who said he thought it'd be cool to torture kids on film. 100s die maybe and the infrastructure was overbombed but there is no more SS style police kidnapping families and .... [put 10000 sick evil stories here]. Just because you think it'd be nice if everyone would play fair and thus become kinder and more loving doesn't mean they will do so. Had Saddam and the Wahcky Tallywhackers in Afghan Land still been kicking it there be a lot of 1000s of innocents thrashing even now- but you might feel better since there would be no evil US bombs dropped. |
Proof?
Proof?
Proof?
I request that you PROVE that people would be dying now if the US had not invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
I mean seriously--seriously now--what was Saddam going to do?
A simple request.
You prove your position, and I may just come round to embracing your position.
Meanwhile, the US lost Vietnam, and, ah, err . . . how many people are dying?
They STOPPED dying when the United Effing States of America stopped KILLING them!
Get it?
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: |
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I cannot mix the following with a serious comment, so:
Bee, dude, great avatar.
Now, if she only had some hips and a little more thigh I might have to interrupt my internetting.
Did I just create a word? |
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Bee Positive
Joined: 27 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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I cannot mix the following with a serious comment, so:
Bee, dude, great avatar.
Now, if she only had some hips and a little more thigh I might have to interrupt my internetting.
Did I just create a word? |
Dear EFLtrainer,
Are you tempting me to go full-on pornographic?
I love nothing more than a woman with generous hips and thighs!
Oh dear Lord, bring them on, the amply proportioned, delectable to behold, sweet to embrace, honey-featured, lovingly elaborated and constructed, sweet-on-the-eyes, soft-to-the-touch, beautiful, loving
WOMEN!
Oh yes!
Whoops, enough out of me!
Except to say that this weekend, well, I do expect to be in the arms of a sweet, delectable, lovingly-proportioned woman, and oh yes, oh yes,
oh yes,
oh yes . . .
long live life and long live sex and death to war and oh dear why can't we just love our dear good life and the wonderful gracious good sex which god grants us . . .
BEE PLUS. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: |
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I saw it, and suspected that you were banned.
Kelka dii ante anke me pensis pri sendar a vu mesajo pri lingui konstruktita ma me vidis vua mesajo pri Kanada e kelkete hezitis - vu ne devas prizar ta lando (me venas de ibe ma malgre ke me preferas esar en Korea me pensas ke Kanada ne esas tante mala lando komparante a multa altri en la mondo) ma la vorti quin vu skribis pri Kanada kelkete surprizigis me.
Anyway, people are more fun when they're relaxed. Good to see you weren't banned. |
Thanks, Mith.
I've never devoted a moment of study to Ido, but nonetheless managed to read every word of what you wrote (assuming that it was, in fact, in Ido!) without hesitation.
And if that's not a recommendation for the utility of a constructed language, I don't know what is! |
Unesme, es bon ke vu komprenas quon me skribis, do me kontinuos skribar en Ido.
Yes, to qua surprizigis me es ke vu odias la milito en Irak tante multe, ma samatempe vere ne prizas Kanada, lando qua selektis ne partoprenar en la milito malgre ke ol havas nur un frontiero, ta kun Usa. Esas vera, tamen, ke la Kanadani en Korea ne esas bona reprezentari di la lando, samamaniere ke yuna Usana militisti en Itaewon ne bone reprezentas vua lando anke. Ne obliviez ke preske nulu en Korea esas de Quebec, e ibe esas la maxim interesanta parto di Kanada. La fato ke preske omna Kanadani en Korea esas 20-30 yari, stulta e sen experienco esas la kulpo di la hagwon-i, pro ke li sempre preferas bona imajo kam experienco o qualifiki vera. Simple, vua opiniono pri Kanada forsan es ke 1)Hagwon-i esas mala, e 2)Parolanti di la Franca linguo preske ne existas. Quala ne-interesanta lando Kanada esus se ni ne havus Quebec! |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Bee Positive wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
I cannot mix the following with a serious comment, so:
Bee, dude, great avatar.
Now, if she only had some hips and a little more thigh I might have to interrupt my internetting.
Did I just create a word? |
Dear EFLtrainer,
Are you tempting me to go full-on pornographic?
I love nothing more than a woman with generous hips and thighs!
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Um, no. I am an a$$ man, but bread alone....
I'm not a wide hips man, but there is a certain... degree... and slope... all things being equal, I'll take your avatar. All things being unequal, I'd take... ... an early Aniston?
Truth be told, my last girlfriend was as close to perfect as I ever expect to get. Beware: absence does NOT make the heart grow fonder. (Especially when your GF is thirty and Korean.) |
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Bee Positive
Joined: 27 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Unesme, es bon ke vu komprenas quon me skribis, do me kontinuos skribar en Ido.
Yes, to qua surprizigis me es ke vu odias la milito en Irak tante multe, ma samatempe vere ne prizas Kanada, lando qua selektis ne partoprenar en la milito malgre ke ol havas nur un frontiero, ta kun Usa. Esas vera, tamen, ke la Kanadani en Korea ne esas bona reprezentari di la lando, samamaniere ke yuna Usana militisti en Itaewon ne bone reprezentas vua lando anke. Ne obliviez ke preske nulu en Korea esas de Quebec, e ibe esas la maxim interesanta parto di Kanada. La fato ke preske omna Kanadani en Korea esas 20-30 yari, stulta e sen experienco esas la kulpo di la hagwon-i, pro ke li sempre preferas bona imajo kam experienco o qualifiki vera. Simple, vua opiniono pri Kanada forsan es ke 1)Hagwon-i esas mala, e 2)Parolanti di la Franca linguo preske ne existas. Quala ne-interesanta lando Kanada esus se ni ne havus Quebec! |
Esas vera, tamen, ke la Kanadani en Korea ne esas bona reprezentari di la lando, samamaniere ke yuna Usana militisti en Itaewon ne bone reprezentas vua lando anke.
True enough, Mith. American soldiers in Itawon are not good representatives of America. Likewise, Canadian teachers here in Korea don't always do their country justice.
And heh, heh, you're right. Hakwons prefer image over substance, and so are likely to take Canadians in their 20s and 30s over others. French-speakers hardly exist here.
Vive la France, of course; vive le Quebec; vive le Quebec libre, and so on . . .
Meanwhile, vive la vie!
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Bee Positive wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
I saw it, and suspected that you were banned.
Kelka dii ante anke me pensis pri sendar a vu mesajo pri lingui konstruktita ma me vidis vua mesajo pri Kanada e kelkete hezitis - vu ne devas prizar ta lando (me venas de ibe ma malgre ke me preferas esar en Korea me pensas ke Kanada ne esas tante mala lando komparante a multa altri en la mondo) ma la vorti quin vu skribis pri Kanada kelkete surprizigis me.
Anyway, people are more fun when they're relaxed. Good to see you weren't banned. |
Thanks, Mith.
I've never devoted a moment of study to Ido, but nonetheless managed to read every word of what you wrote (assuming that it was, in fact, in Ido!) without hesitation.
And if that's not a recommendation for the utility of a constructed language, I don't know what is! |
Unesme, es bon ke vu komprenas quon me skribis, do me kontinuos skribar en Ido.
Yes, to qua surprizigis me es ke vu odias la milito en Irak tante multe, ma samatempe vere ne prizas Kanada, lando qua selektis ne partoprenar en la milito malgre ke ol havas nur un frontiero, ta kun Usa. Esas vera, tamen, ke la Kanadani en Korea ne esas bona reprezentari di la lando, samamaniere ke yuna Usana militisti en Itaewon ne bone reprezentas vua lando anke. Ne obliviez ke preske nulu en Korea esas de Quebec, e ibe esas la maxim interesanta parto di Kanada. La fato ke preske omna Kanadani en Korea esas 20-30 yari, stulta e sen experienco esas la kulpo di la hagwon-i, pro ke li sempre preferas bona imajo kam experienco o qualifiki vera. Simple, vua opiniono pri Kanada forsan es ke 1)Hagwon-i esas mala, e 2)Parolanti di la Franca linguo preske ne existas. Quala ne-interesanta lando Kanada esus se ni ne havus Quebec! |
I had this though a few bits ago and cannot remember why... but I believe it was this thread. (Um, yup, had a drink or... yup.) I'm a relatively intelligent guy. No person who has ever actually met me has even attempted to claim otherwise. (Not bragging, setting up my point.)
When in high school I had a bit of a revelation: while I was always in the 97th percentile or higher on tests and such, there were certain people whom it was embarassingly obvious were light years ahead of me. I started paying attention because these people made me feel *stupid.* I eventually came to the conclusion that the difference between smart people - or even REALLY smart people - and geniuses is memory. The people that humbled me without any overt attempt to do so (Anyone making an overt attempt would, by definition, be a bit of a tool, no?) were always the very smart people who could remember ANYTHING. Remembering a theorem is easy. Write that bitch on a flash card and look at it enough times. Done. But how do you remember conversations, movies, lyrics, etc? I noticed these people had incredible memories.
You add excellent analytical skills to a memory that is like a library... obvious advantage.
Sir Mith, you engender similar feelings of inadequacy. Given that I have been accused (noted to be?) of being somewhat... um... arrogant on these boards, well...[/b] |
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Bee Positive
Joined: 27 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Bee Positive wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
I saw it, and suspected that you were banned.
Kelka dii ante anke me pensis pri sendar a vu mesajo pri lingui konstruktita ma me vidis vua mesajo pri Kanada e kelkete hezitis - vu ne devas prizar ta lando (me venas de ibe ma malgre ke me preferas esar en Korea me pensas ke Kanada ne esas tante mala lando komparante a multa altri en la mondo) ma la vorti quin vu skribis pri Kanada kelkete surprizigis me.
Anyway, people are more fun when they're relaxed. Good to see you weren't banned. |
Thanks, Mith.
I've never devoted a moment of study to Ido, but nonetheless managed to read every word of what you wrote (assuming that it was, in fact, in Ido!) without hesitation.
And if that's not a recommendation for the utility of a constructed language, I don't know what is! |
Unesme, es bon ke vu komprenas quon me skribis, do me kontinuos skribar en Ido.
Yes, to qua surprizigis me es ke vu odias la milito en Irak tante multe, ma samatempe vere ne prizas Kanada, lando qua selektis ne partoprenar en la milito malgre ke ol havas nur un frontiero, ta kun Usa. Esas vera, tamen, ke la Kanadani en Korea ne esas bona reprezentari di la lando, samamaniere ke yuna Usana militisti en Itaewon ne bone reprezentas vua lando anke. Ne obliviez ke preske nulu en Korea esas de Quebec, e ibe esas la maxim interesanta parto di Kanada. La fato ke preske omna Kanadani en Korea esas 20-30 yari, stulta e sen experienco esas la kulpo di la hagwon-i, pro ke li sempre preferas bona imajo kam experienco o qualifiki vera. Simple, vua opiniono pri Kanada forsan es ke 1)Hagwon-i esas mala, e 2)Parolanti di la Franca linguo preske ne existas. Quala ne-interesanta lando Kanada esus se ni ne havus Quebec! |
I had this though a few bits ago and cannot remember why... but I believe it was this thread. (Um, yup, had a drink or... yup.) I'm a relatively intelligent guy. No person who has ever actually met me has even attempted to claim otherwise. (Not bragging, setting up my point.)
When in high school I had a bit of a revelation: while I was always in the 97th percentile or higher on tests and such, there were certain people whom it was embarassingly obvious were light years ahead of me. (I've never scored less than 97th percentile on any standardized test.) I started paying attention because these people made me feel *stupid.* I eventually came to the conclusion that the difference between smart people - or even REALLY smart people - and geniuses is memory. The people that humbled me without any overt to do so were always the very smart people who could rmember ANYTHING. Remembering a theorem is easy. Write that *beep* on a flash card and look at it enough times. Done. But how do you remember conversations, movies, lyrics, etc? I noticed these people had incredible memories.
You add excellent analytical skills to a memory that is like a library... obvious advantage.
Sir Mith, you engender similar feelings of inadequacy. Given that I have been accused (noted to be?) of being somewhat... um... arrogant on these boards, well...[/b] |
Wow, do you ever bring back memories!
I was in the University of Washigton's Early Entrance Program many, many years ago.
Tested in at age 14, got started on my university studies at age 15, but I felt awfully inadequate in comparison with the real geniuses in that program.
While I actually had to work for everything that I accomplished, others just plain sailed through, seemingly without trying.
God bless them. They were born with a gift.
I've struggled, meanwhile, all this time, without any evident gifts. From time to time I'm deemed super-smart, but just laugh, because I know it isn't true.
If I were super-smart, I'd be speaking fluent Korean by now. Instead of which, oh dear, do I ever struggle with this most fiendishly of difficult languages!
How many of the super-smart end up here in Korea?
Just wondering.
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Bee Positive wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
I saw it, and suspected that you were banned.
Kelka dii ante anke me pensis pri sendar a vu mesajo pri lingui konstruktita ma me vidis vua mesajo pri Kanada e kelkete hezitis - vu ne devas prizar ta lando (me venas de ibe ma malgre ke me preferas esar en Korea me pensas ke Kanada ne esas tante mala lando komparante a multa altri en la mondo) ma la vorti quin vu skribis pri Kanada kelkete surprizigis me.
Anyway, people are more fun when they're relaxed. Good to see you weren't banned. |
Thanks, Mith.
I've never devoted a moment of study to Ido, but nonetheless managed to read every word of what you wrote (assuming that it was, in fact, in Ido!) without hesitation.
And if that's not a recommendation for the utility of a constructed language, I don't know what is! |
Unesme, es bon ke vu komprenas quon me skribis, do me kontinuos skribar en Ido.
Yes, to qua surprizigis me es ke vu odias la milito en Irak tante multe, ma samatempe vere ne prizas Kanada, lando qua selektis ne partoprenar en la milito malgre ke ol havas nur un frontiero, ta kun Usa. Esas vera, tamen, ke la Kanadani en Korea ne esas bona reprezentari di la lando, samamaniere ke yuna Usana militisti en Itaewon ne bone reprezentas vua lando anke. Ne obliviez ke preske nulu en Korea esas de Quebec, e ibe esas la maxim interesanta parto di Kanada. La fato ke preske omna Kanadani en Korea esas 20-30 yari, stulta e sen experienco esas la kulpo di la hagwon-i, pro ke li sempre preferas bona imajo kam experienco o qualifiki vera. Simple, vua opiniono pri Kanada forsan es ke 1)Hagwon-i esas mala, e 2)Parolanti di la Franca linguo preske ne existas. Quala ne-interesanta lando Kanada esus se ni ne havus Quebec! |
I had this though a few bits ago and cannot remember why... but I believe it was this thread. (Um, yup, had a drink or... yup.) I'm a relatively intelligent guy. No person who has ever actually met me has even attempted to claim otherwise. (Not bragging, setting up my point.)
When in high school I had a bit of a revelation: while I was always in the 97th percentile or higher on tests and such, there were certain people whom it was embarassingly obvious were light years ahead of me. I started paying attention because these people made me feel *stupid.* I eventually came to the conclusion that the difference between smart people - or even REALLY smart people - and geniuses is memory. The people that humbled me without any overt attempt to do so (Anyone making an overt attempt would, by definition, be a bit of a tool, no?) were always the very smart people who could remember ANYTHING. Remembering a theorem is easy. Write that *beep* on a flash card and look at it enough times. Done. But how do you remember conversations, movies, lyrics, etc? I noticed these people had incredible memories.
You add excellent analytical skills to a memory that is like a library... obvious advantage.
Sir Mith, you engender similar feelings of inadequacy. Given that I have been accused (noted to be?) of being somewhat... um... arrogant on these boards, well...[/b] |
Feelings of inadequacy are one of the strongest motivations that I use for anything, because it seems to work a lot better than simple positive reinforcement. I remember reading though that people who are truly intelligent learn things as if they were remembering them as opposed to forging an entirely new path in an area completely unknown before. I remember having a really low opinion of people at school that had good marks through a good amount of effort but were quite messed up personally. During debate class they'd come up with a theory on life so ridiculous that you knew they were going to be messed up later on in life.
Not sure if any of that was on topic. Now that I think about it, learning Ido was originally in order to impress a girl. Yay. Only kind of worked. |
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EFLtrainer

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| Best i can do at this moment is: Bee, that's a darned nice booty. |
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Callan
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Bee, there is something horribly charming about your rants. Perhaps it is the soju (green bottles for a reason...they're like gamma radiation to foreigners...riiiiip...HULK!). I am really not sure. I can't say that I agree with you in all respects, some of your ideas are just too simple. Things just aren't black and white. War/Not War (make no mistake, the opposite to war isn't always peace), the Canada issue, the Quebec and French issue...just not simple.
But yes, nice behind. |
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