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E2 visas and mandatory drug tests
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Sooke



Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: E2 visas and mandatory drug tests Reply with quote

I have heard a rumour that immigration will soon be doing mandatory drug tests for all E2 visa holders. Specifically, they will be making E2s entering the country to submit a pee-test upon entering.

Anybody hear anything about this? It would sure make my vacation home a bit lame if I can't have a few (hundred) tokes.

I don't do it here, for obvious reasons. But I don't see a problem with snowboarding back in my native country and unwinding at night with a big fat session.

Are our jobs worth the indignity and invasion of privacy? I'm beginning to think not.

"Why don't you just leave then, you Canadian Freedom hater!" you may say. Don't worry, I'm way ahead of you. I'm on the 6 month countdown. Soon, I'll be working in a country that doesn't assume I'm a criminal and harass me with endless degree confirmations and (proposed?) drug tests. [However, the country may harass me because I represent the Great Satan, but at least the pay is more than here Wink )
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, Sooke, smart people understand your worry. I'm not much of a smoker, but that's not the point of objecting to a pee test. I sure as hell don't want to have to piss in a cup when I enter the country. It's a definite invasion of privacy.
Now, on the other hand, can you actually imagine Immigration doing that at the airport? C'mon, I can't imagine that being done. It would take to long and be too difficult.
Does this happen anywhere in the world? Is there a country that tests visitors before they enter the country for drugs? (wait a second, I have a suspicion that the U.S. does this. If it does, could someone show proof of this?)
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beware second hand smoke too!
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Sooke



Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riley wrote:
No, no, Sooke, smart people understand your worry. I'm not much of a smoker, but that's not the point of objecting to a pee test. I sure as hell don't want to have to piss in a cup when I enter the country. It's a definite invasion of privacy.
Now, on the other hand, can you actually imagine Immigration doing that at the airport? C'mon, I can't imagine that being done. It would take to long and be too difficult.


You're right, I can't imagine them doing that. Or, I can imagine them doing it for a while, then stopping, much like the big prostitution crackdown a few months (or years-who remembers?) back. The will is strong but the flesh is weak.

I'm just worried that I'm in the airport after indulging during my last vacation, and they administer a pee test. "Thanks for your computer, your bank account, and all the other stuff you used to own. Make yourself uncomfortable as we detain you for a couple of weeks and deport you. Korea Fighting!!"
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have high doubts they would do it at the airports, rather than do it during a mandatory health check, which alot of teachers go through if they take a public school job.

I think one of the things that foreigners DON'T understand that any contact with marajuana is a crime in this country, period. It is not as laxed as in Canada and not as tolerated as in the US.

Korean entertainers have been arrested and their careers ruined by just being in contact (using or from second-hand smoke).

It is best to reframe from having anything to do with it until you know you are not going to come back to Korea.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear on the grapevine that western countries are planning to abandon drug tests for airline pilots too, not just teachers.

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voth



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how they would handle those with paruresis better known as shy bladder syndrome? There are other ways of testing an individual for narcotics use, such as blood or a hair sample. I see this as an invasion of privacy plain and simple.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good. One more way to rid us of useless people. First get rid of the fake degree people, then get rid of the drug users. Sounds okay to me. I can't take even one more teacher arrested for fake degrees or using drugs. How many times do we all have to be painted with the same brush?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
I have high doubts they would do it at the airports, rather than do it during a mandatory health check, which alot of teachers go through if they take a public school job.


I think a lot of places do a check for drugs/hiv when they do the tests, does anyone know exactly what it is they are checking for when they hand over their samples?
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joelseymour



Joined: 18 Apr 2005

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