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voook
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: "F" |
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| The initial sound determines the article. For example, we never say "an university". The initial sound is "yoo", not "uh" as in "umbrella", so "a university" is the correct choice, as is " an F". Unless you want to go around saying things like, "I got a FFFFFFFFFFF(pronounced "ffffffffffff", pay attention to the pronunciation. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| BFA- photography, the Art Institute of Boston. Started working on a second degree at Portland State Univ. (PDX, OR) in Finance. Finished 1 year, but it wasn't my thing (hated being back in school a second time around). |
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Jasobang
Joined: 11 Dec 2005
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: Rocket Science |
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist or even a journalist, well........., to figure out the a/an rule, does it?
I mean it's a rather important one when it comes to EFL. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I was originally a History major (minoring in Sociology) at UMass-Amherst, but I kept turning on, tuning in and dropping out (determined to be some kind of revolutionary - which turned out to be of the spiritual variety...) Anyway, after ashram-living became problematic I decided to get a two-year Associate's degree in Paralegal studies from a business college in Orlando... When I remained more-or-less unemployable (even with a 4.0 GPA) I expanded my student-loan debt by taking two more years of mostly legal courses - with a sprinkling of English and Humanities thrown in. The result was a Bachelor of Science (please refrain from "full of BS" jokes...) in Paralegal Studies (Summum cum Laude) [I guess the "beep" is apropos...] |
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HapKi
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Big Mac- sorry to bring up the a/an debate on your account. I certainly don't like my posts gone through with a fine-tooth comb, as easy as it may be. 
Can be a real fine line when pronunciation influences grammar.
A dang slipp'ry slope me's wan' no part of- no ways, no how. 
MA in TESL/TEFL |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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BSW...any guesses as to what that is? 
It sure comes in handy here!
As to the a/an rule: the letter "u" is another one with some variations. If it's pronounced as "u" it's "a" (as in "a university), but if it's pronounced as "uh", it's "an" (as in "an uptight princess"). |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| ajuma wrote: |
BSW...any guesses as to what that is?
It sure comes in handy here!
As to the a/an rule: the letter "u" is another one with some variations. If it's pronounced as "u" it's "a" (as in "a university), but if it's pronounced as "uh", it's "an" (as in "an uptight princess"). |
Bachelor of Social Work? |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Very good! You get A+ 
And it DOES really come in handy here! |
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Old fat expat
Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Ajuma wrote:
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| If it's pronounced as "u" it's "a" (as in "a university |
The rule as described for initial sounds still holds. In the case of university, the initial sound is not any of the 'u' sounds-that is a vowel (short 'u' as in cup; long 'u' as in fur; or diphthong as in pure), but is the IPA /j/ followed by /u:/ (pronounced 'you').
No room for Soc Sci degrees I would also be interested in the level of degree attained by area of study. Is anyone else concerned about how few of the teachers here have training in education? 16% seems quite low and may account why many struggle.
There is an article that I can find the link to (if there is interest) making the point that teaching reading and writing IS rocket science. It might be ESL that we teach, but reading and writing is still what we are doing. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| BA International Relations (Double Major) with 2 years of Bahasa Indonesia from the University of Queensland. Working on an MA in the same subject from Deakin University. |
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The Kung Fu Hustle
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| BA (Chinese) |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| That means your university was crap, not that English degrees are. At my school, we had to take a course in English grammar if we wanted to even minor in the subject. |
Was that MUN? A good Uni? I don't think so. But damm that grammar course was tough. Barely passed. Did Ok in Lit courses after 2 years of crappy marks trying to figure out what those know-it-all profs wanted. And most of them had big egos, but a few were cool. Most were like, I'm cool, I read so much and know so much more than you kids. What a bunch of jerks a lot of those fools were. Though I guess they still have better jobs than us in Korea.
Aren't degrees overrated? If you can read and write sufficiently, and speak properly, I'm not sure what purpose they serve, except in certain areas. Most arts degrees, anyway, seem like a big waste. Just an opinion. |
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mysteriousdeltarays
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Food Pyramid Bldg. 5F, 77 Sunset Strip, Alphaville
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a degree in astromenstrology and am proud of it. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| jajdude wrote: |
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| That means your university was crap, not that English degrees are. At my school, we had to take a course in English grammar if we wanted to even minor in the subject. |
Was that MUN? A good Uni? I don't think so. But damm that grammar course was tough. Barely passed. Did Ok in Lit courses after 2 years of crappy marks trying to figure out what those know-it-all profs wanted. And most of them had big egos, but a few were cool. Most were like, I'm cool, I read so much and know so much more than you kids. What a bunch of jerks a lot of those fools were. Though I guess they still have better jobs than us in Korea.
Aren't degrees overrated? If you can read and write sufficiently, and speak properly, I'm not sure what purpose they serve, except in certain areas. Most arts degrees, anyway, seem like a big waste. Just an opinion. |
Why do I hear this argument all the time from Newfoundlanders? They all seem to say the same thing. What do you need a degree for? University is designed to teach you how to think and analyze. That's why it's valuable.
Perhaps that attitude is the reason why most Newfoundlanders have to leave to make a decent living. They're so closed-minded when it comes to this. They seem to think the only way to make a living within Newfoundland is:
a/ in the fishery.
b/ lumbering or in the mill.
c/ working for government.
d/ on an oil rig.
e/ Voisey's Bay.
f/ a make work project.
g/ Employment Insurance (much more popular than it should be).
Maybe if they didn't have this attitude against education there would be more creative thinking in that province.
I highly doubt that anyone who hasn't lived in Newfoundland is going to know that MUN stands for Memorial University. The only place I've ever heard that acronym is in Newfoundland.
By the way...I love Newfoundland. It just makes me sad that these attitudes bring such a beautiful place with so much potential down to the lowest rung. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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BA double (Korean/Geography)
Grad. Diploma of Teaching and Learning(Secondary) |
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