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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Wrench wrote:
Mr.Glass wrote:
I don't think anybody could be worse than Paul Martin...oh wait, basically every PM since Trudeau...
Trudeau was a commy idiot..
I don't think we had a descend PM since ww2.. The start of the worst PM's was Diefenbaker.
Well I meant to include him, "since" meaning since he started...sorry for the miscommunication. No need to call anybody an idiot. Nobody likes a PM who goes from 0 debt to about 200+ billion.
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I think Wench was referring to Trudeau as a "commie idiot", not calling you an idiot. |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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capebretoncanadian wrote: |
The conservatives were polling ahead of the liberals at points in the last election campaign too. What happened that time? |
The Liberals pulled out the fear campaign. Saying the conservatives would wreck the health care, destroy the economy and kill all the gays.
Doesn't seem to be working this time.
Knock me in the knackers once...shame on you,
Knock me in the knackers twice...shame on me,
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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The latest poll that a coworker just showed me(the morning after the last night's leaders' debate) is indicating a Conservative MAJORITY government. I'll see if I can get a link. |
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Mr.Glass

Joined: 08 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Man, the good news keeps rolling in. |
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The Lemon

Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Wrench wrote: |
Trudeau was a commy idiot..
I don't think we had a descend PM since ww2.. |
While most of the right-wing types who infest the Dave's Current Events forum are, of course, rocket scientists. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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While he may have been a "commie", Trudeau was the furthest thing from an idiot. One of the century's MOST influential Canadians, he was also one of the most intelligent.
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Man, the good news keeps rolling in. |
Sure, so let's not forget this little insight into the how Martin, Bush et al. run their little collective empires of hypocrisy.
I wonder how many swing voters this will bring over to the Conservatives side? As far as this goes, reptile-man Harper has reportedly long been given the thumbs-up from the Bilderbergers.
Isn't Canada's federal democracy great? It all boils down to apples or oranges kids; take your pick, & be happy to call yourself free
MARTIN'S FAMILY VESSEL RAIDED FOR DRUGS
Halifax Daily News, Jul 1, 2004
83 kilograms of cocaine were found during a random search of the vessel
HALIFAX -- An underwater camera is credited with what's described as the fluke discovery of an attempt to smuggle millions of dollars in cocaine on a cargo ship named after the prime minister's wife and operated by the company he once controlled. Authorities suggest organized crime is behind an attempt to transport cocaine using the Sheila Ann, a ship operated by Canada Steamship Lines, the company Prime Minister Paul Martin transferred control of to his three sons last year.
Two duffel bags stuffed with 83 kilograms of cocaine were found early Wednesday during a random search of the vessel, which was carrying coal from Venezuela to Sydney for Nova Scotia Power. The camera discovered the drugs in a grate attached to the bottom of the ship, resulting in what customs agents call a "cold hit'' _ a seizure that is essentially a fluke, neither the result of criminal intelligence nor informants.
"The security is not good ... there are not enough officers in Sydney to search a vessel,'' said Susan Horne, president of the Customs Excise Union in Nova Scotia, which represents customs officers. Members from the Halifax customs office were called in to assist in the search, but since Canada Customs does not have its own divers, Horne said private scuba divers were contracted to remove the bags. Once it was determined the bags contained cocaine, the unarmed customs officers at Port of Sydney called in police. "It's for their own security,'' said Horne. ``We don't know who put those drugs on. . . . Would someone be coming to the vessel that might be trying to retrieve those drugs?''
A thorough search of the vessel followed, producing no other contraband and the Sheila Ann was allowed to leave port Wednesday evening. The RCMP reportedly estimated the street value of the cocaine at between $12 million and $14 million. Martine Malka, a spokeswoman for Canada Steamship Lines, said the packages must have been smuggled in from Maracaibo, Venezuela, the vessel's last stop before Sydney.
She said four bolts holding the underwater grate to the bottom of the ship were removed sometime before the vessel docked, then replaced after the packages were hidden inside. "This cannot be done through the ship,'' Malka said. ``The only way this could have been done is by divers underwater.'' Horne agreed and said the drugs were almost certainly destined for Canada, as they would have interfered with the crew unloading coal in Sydney and would surely have been noticed. They were stuffed inside the grate where water is taken in to fill the ship's ballast for stabilization during the on- and offloading of cargo.
How the drugs made it onto the ship undetected is unclear, said Horne. "The ship's owner has committed to work to improve security for the vessel,'' she said. Michel Proulx, spokesman for the Canada Border Services Agency, said it's not unusual for legitimate companies to be exploited by organized crime for the movement of contraband. Proulx said no charges were laid against the vessel or its crew. After handing over control of the company, Martin made it known he would not be involved in any dealings with it and would not be commenting on its affairs.
The Customs Excise Union says the random discovery points to a lack of marine security along Canada's coast. Customs agents search just two per cent of all the commercial and pleasure vessels that enter Nova Scotia waters each year, Horne said. Canada Steamship Lines has its headquarters in Montreal and offices in Halifax, Winnipeg, Burlington, Ont., Boston, Singapore and Sydney, Australia. Martin was appointed president in 1974 and he and a partner bought the company in 1981 for $189 million. Martin bought out his partner in 1988 to take full control. When he entered politics in the mid-1990s, he placed CSL in a blind trust, meaning he still owned the company but was isolated from its management and day-to-day operations.
Last year, under pressure from opposition parties, he transferred control of the company to his three adult sons, Paul, James and David.
* definition of recusal - refusing to submit; (formerly) refusing to attend the services of the Church of England or to acknowledge the ecclesiastical supremacy of the Crown
**Paul Martin Wins Minority Government. Digital Journal, Jun 28, 2004 Election Day is over at last. Paul Martin is Canada��s Prime Minister. He��s the Liberal guy. Yes, also the same one who took over for Chrétien. Jean Chrétien — he was the Prime Minister before Martin. Ah yes ... For all of June the country was being saturated with election coverage ... |
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