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| Who thinks we should add a forum to this board for Philosophy/Religion/Spirituality |
| Yes; open up a new forum |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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When I first began to post on this message board, I had dreams of people sexually assaulting children. One, of the reasons I have been purposely annoying on these boards is because I wanted to see if I could flush out a few of these individuals.
The light exposes those things in the dark.
Big Nate, do you have any links to past threads? If he has posted on other sites then there has to be evidence. Otherwise it's your word against his and he is not going to confess that.
So Grotto, ironic how now it's about evidence. You know, for the most part, I would have keep out of this discussion, but since its you. I have my special reasons to be involved. Is this why you hated the discussions on Christianity soo much? Did they bring too much conviction to your soul? I realize you are not guilty until proven otherwise, but why the continual insults, slander and cruelty? That behavior is manifesting because there is something hidden below the surface.
Is this why? Your self-hatred surfacing throughout these posts?
If it is in fact true, consider this the mercy of God. God has shown mercy upon you to make you face the consequences of such choices. It's mercy, because you don't want to bring these types of sins into the next life. Even through these types of choices Grotto, God can still forgive you and love you.
If it is not true, then it should be a warning to those who engage in such activities. Anyone else here that is into this type of abuse...repent and turn from your wickedness...because you will be exposed in this life or the next.
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If this isn't coming on to a forum to convert people then I don't know what is?
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=50451&start=45 |
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Merlyn
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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If Deism was correct, then Christianity wouldn't be nearly as big as it is today, particularly among the Pentecostal / Charismatic Churches, which are growing quite rapidly. God didn't only reveal Himself to a few people. No way it would have ever got off the ground. The fact of the miraculous is why many have come to believe in God. Believe me, someone doesn't turn from the verge of Satanism (and other things) to God without some thing a little more impacting that some strange stories about a Jewish man in Palestine 2000 years ago.
God's influence is hard to see if one refuses to look that way. God is very relevant today, but the way man is going is away from God. In mans eyes and as man chooses their own way, God starts to look irrelevant. I guess that is an issue of desiring independance from God.
God has been revealed to many, many people over time.
Science is not the whole basis for God. A Christian would say that science is simply discovering and enunciating things regarding God's creation and work. Take the resurrection. I personally thought that would be the most unbelievable fact in the Bible. But, logically, it is one of the events that scholars, Christian and secular are best able to prove actually happened, drawing on various ancient writings and history. No doubt that many questions are raised about this event and it asumes that one knows that Jesus was a historical character, but the theories against it are full of holes. ie: swoon theory, wrong tomb theory, Jesus wasn't a real person theory. Granted though that it takes some understanding of the history, the events and various other factors.
But, I guess that is part of where I am coming from. Anyone can slag something of as ridiculous without really looking into something seriously for themselves. I guess though I wouldn't look into something if I thought all the proponents were whacko too.
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Deism can still be correct even with Pentecostal and Charismatic Churches. Why not? Just because these people get emotional over speaking nonsense and the like doesn't mean that Theism is correct. Just because people are fooled by healing claims doesn't mean that Theism is correct either. It is not miraculous that people believe in God, there is no law of nature being violated here. What we have here is a lot of people who haven't taken the time to just look around in the world they live in and see it as it is without any preconceptions. As for the tomb theories, oh I wish I was there. So much could have been answered. |
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Merlyn
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| The fact of the miraculous is why many have come to believe in God. |
This actually reminds me of a conversation I had with my 25 year old student today. A Christian no less. She'll be a teacher as soon as she passes her exam. We were talking about things we fear and we were kind of taken off topic a bit. We ended up talking about the Preying Mantis. She said with no hestitation, "we have to be careful when we are around preying mantises because that's how we get moles on our skin, when they bite you". I said, "really" and she looked around for confirmation from the other students in our advanced class, and they all said with heads down "No". This was what her mother had taught her when she was a child and she had stopped trying to play with them ever since. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Too many forums already: as somone said, it fragments and devitalises the board. |
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Quite a few posters have said, "But it'll make the board less dynamic."
True, but it could also make it less acrimonious.
Recently, two threads have turned into all-out bloodbaths.
The more recent one seems to be on its way to being locked or deleted.
The other had finally calmed down, but it seems to have started up again.
So which would you prefer, less dynamic and less acrimonious, or more dynamic and more acrimonious? |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: |
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There are enough moderators and administrators to control individual offenders if they cross the line of civility. I see no need to ban "evangelists" as a class from posting an evangelical message in either the "Off-Topic" or "Current Events" forums - as long as the poster is a legitimate member of the ex-pat teacher Korean community. However, if it becomes apparent that there is an organized effort by an evangelical group with no real connection to the ex-pat teacher community in South Korea to flood the forum with posts, I would be in favor of somehow limiting that.
I think the "Off-Topic" forum broadly encompasses the categories of sports, entertainment (including games and trivia) and various human interest topics that may fit better here than in "Current Events". (Contrary to what was stated by "Shortskirt_Longjacket", there is not a separate "Sports" forum on Dave's - even though there are many sports threads...) Just as political junkies like to hang out in "Current Events" , some "religious" junkies - on all sides of the issues - like to participate on religious topic threads, from time-to-time on the "Off-Topic" forum...The issue of "sneak attacks" seems kind of wimpy, but whenever there is an egregious case of thread hi-jacking it can also be reported and acted on by the moderators... |
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The Man known as The Man

Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Ginger Spice for sure. She'd be the tastiest.
Then I'd eat Posh Spice just because I think she's a waste of space (but I bet she'd taste like crap).
I'd eat Baby Spice last, I suppose (there was a Baby Spice, wasn't there?) because eating babies is just sick.
Speaking of which, here's a joke:
Q. What's grosser than gross?
A. A dead baby
Q. What's grosser than that?
A. A pile of dead babies
Q. What's grosser than that?
A. A live one on the bottom
Q. What's grosser than that?
A. It ate its way to the top
Q. What's grosser than that?
A. It went back for seconds!
And that, my friends, is how you do the Off-Topic Forum properly. You talk about a bunch of absurd sick *beep* like eating other people and death and conquering death by eating dead people and....wait a sec! Sounds like religion! I take it all back....the Off-Topic forum is the place to discuss religion! This is the place for the absurd and disgusting and irrelevant chatter.
Carry on, then... |
Let's eat. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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I think this thread has taken a cannabalistic turn and is now advocating can-of-bull-ism...  |
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The Man known as The Man

Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| bignate wrote: |
I have a question.......
What would happen if God died?
Seriously......no *beep* about God never dieing, seriously where would all this faith go? |
He did die.
Unlike Joe T, he came back to life.
It's true.
It's true. |
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