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Nowhere Man
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 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: Time to hit back: The RIGHT IS SO HATEFUL |
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1990992,00.html
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Golden Globe winners spark righteous anger
From Chris Ayres in Los Angeles
CHRISTIAN groups led a furious campaign against Hollywood yesterday, accusing the Golden Globe Awards of promoting films with gay or ��leftist�� themes to serve a political agenda.
The criticism was made after Brokeback Mountain, a film about the forbidden love between gay Wyoming cowboys, won four awards. Other winners included Philip Seymour Hoffman, named Best Actor for his portrayal of the homosexual writer Truman Capote; and Felicity Huffman, the Desperate Housewives actress who played a transsexual with a gay prostitute son in Transamerica.
��Once again, the media elites are proving that their pet projects are more important than profit,�� Janice Crouse, of Concerned Women for America, said. ��None of the three movies — Capote, Transamerica or Brokeback Mountain — is a box office hit. Brokeback Mountain has barely topped $25 million (£14.2 million) in ticket sales. If America isn��t watching these films, why are they winning the awards?��
The criticism from the American heartland carried more weight than usual this year because Hollywood suffered the biggest decline in attendance in two decades last year. Some of the few box office hits of the year were films such as The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, which appealed strongly to Christian audiences.
Oscar pundits are now questioning whether the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences will also reward Brokeback Mountain, potentially souring Hollywood��s relationship with the American ticketbuying public even further. Members of the Academy must hand in their nomination forms by Saturday. The shortlist will be announced on January 31 and the ceremony will be held on March 5.
Religious groups also pointed to the alleged political agenda of winners including George Clooney, who won for his supporting role in Syriana, a film about the ethical pitfalls of the oil business; and Mary Louise Parker, who was rewarded for her performance in Weeds, a television comedy about a suburban mother turned marijuana dealer.
Much of the anger was directed at the Hollywood Foreign Press Association (HFPA), the group of 92 journalists from non-American publications who hand out the Golden Globe Awards. The Times, along with many other large overseas publications, is not represented at the HFPA.
The non-profit HFPA collects as much as $5.7 million from selling the broadcast rights to the ceremony, which is consistently one of the three highest-rated awards shows in the United States, along with the Academy Awards and the Grammys. However, reports alleging cronyism at the HFPA were thought to contribute to a 40 per cent decline in viewership last year.
Right-wing radio talk show hosts also took pot shots at the Globes yesterday. Stephen Bennett, of Straight Talk Radio, said: ��When Hollywood is pumping out anti-family movies with sexually explicit, twisted and perverse themes that glorify homosexuality, transsexuality and every other kind of sexual immorality — then awarding itself for doing so — Middle America better take note.
��Last night Hollywood exposed its own corrupt agenda. [It] is no doubt out on a mission to homosexualise America.�� The British winners at the Globes were some of the most conventional, with Hugh Laurie, 47, winning Best Actor in a Television Series for House. The other big British winner of the night was Rachel Weisz, 35, who collected the award for Best Supporting Dramatic Actress for The Constant Gardener, an adaptation of the bestselling John le Carr é novel.
Britons who failed to win their categories included Polly Walker, 40, a former member of the Royal Shakespeare Company, who starred in the BBC/HBO joint venture Rome. She lost the Best Actress in a TV Drama award to Geena Davis, who played a female US president in Commander in Chief.
Reese Witherspoon��s performance as June Carter in Walk the Line won her the Best Actress in a Comedy or Musical award, for which Keira Knightley, 21, had been nominated for her role as Elizabeth Bennet in Pride & Prejudice. |
Go ahead milktoasts, whine about your victimhood.   |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: Re: Time to hit back: The RIGHT IS SO HATEFUL |
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| Go ahead milktoasts, whine about your victimhood. |
What's a milk-toast? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: |
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I believe the correct spelling is "milquetoast".
Uhh, I think it means something like "wimp", but lemme check the dictionary. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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milque��toast ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mlktst)
n.
One who has a meek, timid, unassertive nature.
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[After Caspar Milquetoast, a comic-strip character created by Harold Tucker Webster (1885-1952).]
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milquetoasty adj.
Word History: An indication of the effect on the English language of popular culture is the adoption of names from the comic strips as English words. Casper Milquetoast, created by Harold Webster in 1924, was a timid and retiring man named for a timid food. The first instance of milquetoast as a common noun is found in the mid-1930s. Milquetoast thus joins the ranks of other such words, including sad sack, from a blundering army private invented by George Baker in 1942, and Wimpy, from J. Wellington Wimpy in the Popeye comic strip, which became a trade name for a hamburger. If we look to a related form of popular culture, the animated cartoon, we must of course acknowledge Mickey Mouse, which has become a slang term for something that is easy, insignificant, small-time, worthless, or petty. |
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=milquetoast |
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khyber
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Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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What's a milk-toast? |
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believe the correct spelling is "milquetoast".
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nothing personal folks (esp. since, though i know the word, could never throw it out...) but i wonder if that may not be one of the funniest mistakes i've read in a while.
re: the right. I took them QUITE a long time to realize the whole "hollywood is glorifying violence" thing but as soon as three gay movies come out in a year, blam, hollywood is gay.
It has NOTHING to do with the quality of the movie. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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You're right...most of the movies coming out of hollywood are horrible.
I am sure that these movies live up to that standard. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:55 am Post subject: ... |
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http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-mil1.htm
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| The name is just a Frenchified respelling of the old American English term milk toast, an uninspiring, bland dish which was created from slices of buttered toast laid in a dish of milk, usually considered to be food for invalids. There��s an even older foodstuff, milksop, which was untoasted bread soaked in milk, likewise something suitable only for infants or the sick. From the thirteenth century on, milksop was a dismissive term for ��an effeminate spiritless man or youth; one wanting in courage or manliness��, as the Oxford English Dictionary puts it. Mr Milquetoast is in the same tradition. |
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You're right...most of the movies coming out of hollywood are horrible.
I am sure that these movies live up to that standard |
I take issue with labeling Ang Lee "Hollywood", but he did make the Hulk, so I'll leave it at that. |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Can anyone identify this quote:
"Independance Day? That movie sucked a$$ too."
"No, Independant films. They're all about gay cowboys eating pudding."
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Nowhere Man
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:55 am Post subject: ... |
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| Eric Cartman? |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:13 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Eric Cartman? |
That would be correct, 10 cool points to you. As soon as I heard of a movie about gay cowboys I thought of it. God Bless Southpark.
-S- |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| re: the right. I took them QUITE a long time to realize the whole "hollywood is glorifying violence" thing but as soon as three gay movies come out in a year, blam, hollywood is gay. |
Though the Christian right does overshoot in their judgments, it is starting to view Hollywood as an arena to which it can enter into. Rather than shout out about it, move in and transform it by producing movies that are actually good. Isn't that the ideal?
The Passion of the Christ,
Narnia,
The End of the Spear, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399862/
And other movies that are coming out soon,
As for the Christian right being so hateful, you should check out these ministries who continue to change the world through love,
www.irismin.org
www.freshfire.ca
www.fotb.com
www.jasonupton.net |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
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| re: the right. I took them QUITE a long time to realize the whole "hollywood is glorifying violence" thing but as soon as three gay movies come out in a year, blam, hollywood is gay. |
Though the Christian right does overshoot in their judgments, it is starting to view Hollywood as an arena to which it can enter into. Rather than shout out about it, move in and transform it by producing movies that are actually good. Isn't that the ideal?
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If Christians start producing movies on a large scale, just as many will suck as secular ones do now. The only reason most (not all like you are suggesting) Christian movies are good (as movies, not my cup of tea usually) is because time is put into them and money isn't usually an issue. Start mass producing them, money will be an issue and they will suck. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:35 am Post subject: ... |
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Though the Christian right does overshoot in their judgments, it is starting to view Hollywood as an arena to which it can enter into. Rather than shout out about it, move in and transform it by producing movies that are actually good. Isn't that the ideal?
The Passion of the Christ,
Narnia,
The End of the Spear, |
While I appreciate your sentiment, it's interesting that you deem these movies "good".
How so?
The gratuitous violence of "the Passion"?
Does it serve a point?
I'd argue that the violence portrayed in A Clockwork Orange also serves a point.
Are you willing to accept that?
Narnia has been openly criticized for its violence.
Your earlier posts make clear that you want(ed) it to be as good as, if not better, than the Lord of the Rings. Tolkien was a devout Catholic. Did you miss that imagery in LOTR?
You don't include that series in your list of "good" Christian movies, do you?
That's what we call "bias".
And that's where we stand with "Brokeback Mountain".
Is it a good or a bad movie?
Can it not be good because it portrays homosexuality?
American Beauty and Magnolia were 2 of the best movies ever to come out of America. They both dealt with morality in a far more realistic and practical sense than the one-sided, oblique method of "the Passion of the Christ".
If that's the victory you're trumping, then you're more interested in the safe comfort of propaganda than anything meaningful.
Before I say anyhting more, how do you feel about Brokeback Mountain?
Is it homosexualizing America with sin, or is it airing something far-repressed? |
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