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bulgogiboy
Joined: 12 Nov 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hey bigblackeqqus,
You mentioned immigration withholding visas when people cut short their contracts a few times. Does that happen alot? Has it happened to anybody you know?
I've never cut short any contract in Korea, i'm just trying to find a reason why immigration would do that to somebody. Maybe they just make up policies on a daily basis according to how much soju they drank the night before and how big their hangovers are???
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UncleAlex
Joined: 04 Apr 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:41 am Post subject: No Longer Applicable? |
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Until now I understood that "the" official document was superfluous and
one could be released simply by drawing up his own confirmation letter
and having his employer countersign it, as was the successful cases of
mine on two occasions. But I have never heard about any form of letter
no longer being applicable. Chances are that the clerk you had spoken to
was confused or just felt like feeding you some baloney. I have been told
one thing by one clerk only to have him be contradicted by another one. It
seems that these officials are consulting different manuals. I'd speak to
someone else, perferably somebody higher up. Your consulate may even
inquire with higher circles on your behalf. Let's hope the clerk you spoke to
is wrong. Korean legislators are always pulling a fast one to make our lives
more miserable.  |
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jjk
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Location: Back in Australia for the time being
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Waht exactly needs to be in a letter of release? My finacee and I need one, after 5 years here in Korea- all at the same school
Looking for something in Ulsan/Busan probably...there are some really shocking jobs out there at the moment though! |
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white tiger

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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spoke to my buddy this weekend; as it turns out, the story is a bit darker than the original i had been given. even though the school did give a letter of release, there's talk of black-listing amongst other things, as both parties felt short-changed...there's some other drama going on as well, so i guess this isa unique case of rejection; not a new "norm" as I was fearing.
Always hidden agendas when it comes to immigration, isn't there? -_- |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 12 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I got my boss to phone up immigration. Actually, there has been a change in the law but it's not as dramatic as first thought. Letters of release are NO LONGER APPLICABLE according to Gwangju immigration. If you want to change jobs you need to make a whole new E-2 visa application, but you don't need to wait until your old E-2 visa runs out, it'll be cancelled and you can start afresh as you did initially. |
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doublejeopardy

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| I got my boss to phone up immigration. Actually, there has been a change in the law but it's not as dramatic as first thought. Letters of release are NO LONGER APPLICABLE according to Gwangju immigration. If you want to change jobs you need to make a whole new E-2 visa application, but you don't need to wait until your old E-2 visa runs out, it'll be cancelled and you can start afresh as you did initially. |
WHOA!!! Does this mean more freedom for us? It sounds like we can quit, fill out our own new application and change jobs, like magic. I can't imagine that is what it really means. I'm sure it's a joke or something is mixed-up in the lines of communication because we'd never be allowed to have that much freedom in Korea. |
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beekeeper3000
Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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yes, this sounds awesome. particularly since i am dealing with this issue right now! can anyone else confirm this? there seems to be a lot to say on LORs.
need a firm answer. |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Location: korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| Ya, I'd really appreciate it if someone could give a definitive answer on this LOR issue |
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| I got my boss to phone up immigration. Actually, there has been a change in the law but it's not as dramatic as first thought. Letters of release are NO LONGER APPLICABLE according to Gwangju immigration. If you want to change jobs you need to make a whole new E-2 visa application, but you don't need to wait until your old E-2 visa runs out, it'll be cancelled and you can start afresh as you did initially. |
Interesting...link or source please!
This could be a definite improvement on the work visa process and change of jobs process.
My local immigration office says you still need the LOR by the way and so does my wife's friend working for the immi department in Seoul...  |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 12 Nov 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| It wasn't just my Gwangju boss who called. I called up my new employer, who called his branch of immigration in another province and they gave him the same answer. So what's one to think? All this lack of certainty is irritating.... |
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| All this lack of certainty is irritating.... |
Indeed! Well if it is a new law this might just be the fabled but internationally common bureaucratic delay until the new legislation moves down the pipes to all the local offices. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| On efl-law.org there are accounts of Busan immigration not accepting LORs. The school director has to camcel the visa personally. I see that as a negative step for E2s as seciring an LOR now is useless, they can change their minds and refuse to go to immi to cancel your visa. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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I can't help but think that immigration has few or maybe no hard and fast regulations, but operates on a case-by-case basis, and that different offices operate differently, sometimes significantly so. Some offices or officers may be stricter. Maybe it's like a judge in a courtroom, ya never know for sure.....?
Are most of coming from countries where we expect clear and inflexible laws that are strictly adhered to? It's reassuring to know exactly what the deal is. But I doubt this applies to Korea, where seems things to be more flexible. Sometimes this is not a bad thing either.
Anyway getting straight answers is not easy. Depends on your particular case I suppose. |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 12 Nov 2003
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I agree. It's probably not totally black and white like some of us are used to. It just seems that having both my current and future employers phone up totally different immigration offices and get the same answer means it must be something approaching standard practice. Having said that, another poster said Seoul immigration sang a different tune. If something's national procedure then you'd think it would start in Seoul and filter down, not the other way round. Confusing.
If you're really unsure and need to know urgently(i.e. you are changing job) you should get a Korean friend/or your boss to call up immigration and ask. Or go along to immigration with a Korean helper. Don't just listen to online lawyers or other waeguks giving you all their different experiences, they can make mistakes too. It's the immigration office that YOU are applying to and their policy that counts. If you need to make a totally new E-2 visa application with visa run,new transcripts from your university,etc, then you're going to have to consider the time it takes to do that before leaving your old job/starting your new one. |
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jjk
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Location: Back in Australia for the time being
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:34 am Post subject: |
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I have the letter of release all signed from my current employer- post dated for the end of the month when I finish up.
The new job said that they called immigration, and I only need the original degree, sealed transcripts, two photos and a copy of my passport for the E-2. I asked if they needed the LOR, and they said immigration didn't ask for it. I'll be putting it in with the rest of the paperwork though, if they don't need it then they won't use it!
Will they process the visa application for the new job now even though we are still working- happily and on good terms until the end of the month with our current school? |
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