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Anybody ever dated a Russian?
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Deconstructor



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was in Korea, I did meet couple of Russian girls in Guang-ju. They were at Hard Rock Cafe talking to some US military men with tortured English and Russian to each other. I thought it was my lucky day because I speak Russian pretty well, so I said "Ti Russkaya?" simply meaning "are you Russian". They hadn't met a Westerner who could speak Russian. I spent couple of hours chit chatting with them. We had a good time. And yes, they were prostitutes. I could see the glitter in the US military men's eyes.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Anybody ever dated a Russian? Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
I've never dated a Russian, but Russians are always on the top ten list for most times having sex a year. Problem with a lot of the ones in Korea is that they are friggin' clueless about make-up and often look like circus clowns given the way they put on cosmetics.


Reminds me of last time I went to Iteawon. My wife and I were at some food cart, really just trying to stay warm, when three or four russian men and one woman shows up. The woman was stunning despite the heavy makeup that made her look like a prostitute.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Francis-Pax wrote:
I know a Russian woman living in Ilsan. She is married to a Korean man and has one child. She teaches English at a hogwon. She is a very nice and she is worthy of respect.


She's not worthy of respect as an English teacher, though. Most hakwons stress pronunciation and several I know of are using non-native speakers whose English is piss poor. Hard to respect the idiot students who go to hakwons such as those.
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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the ones who work at Everland or Lotte World? How much do you think they are pulling in a month. My ex said they make about 2 mil a month. I tried to talk to a couple of them last time I was at Everland, but they're pretty standoffish.
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Sooke



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your mom isn't Russian, is she?






Then, no....I haven't
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liehtzu



Joined: 24 Mar 2003
Location: the sticks, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't dated a Russian girl in Korea, though did once in college. She was from the same region that most of the Russkies in Korea are from - remotest Siberia. She was beautiful, literate, and extremely intelligent, so what she was doing with me is anyone's guess. Based on my one experience I'd recommend. There are some real lookers down there on Texas Street in Busan, and although most appear to be "entertainers," I don't think they're all prostitutes. Give it a shot.

Have fun.
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xingyiman



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was married to a Russian lady for nine years. She was from Krasnodar and Russia is a big place so I cannot simply ascribe my observations to the Siberian women as well. But these are my observations.

1. Russians don't trust anyone. This isn't all their fault as they have lived under a totalitarian regime for so long but it is something you will have to deal with.

2. Most Russians have a really skewed view of Western life. There is a common misconception among them that if you are from America you drive a Mercedes or Lexus, live on the beach in a spacious condo, and have dinner with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie once a week. When reality hits them in the face it can have some drastic implications on your relationship.

3. Russians are vicious social climbers. They have been genetically seleted as opportunists in their culture and regardless of thier feelings for you they WILL use you to get what they are after. There is no Russian woman who is happy with a little compared with what she had.

4. Most Russians I met either in-law relatives or my x-wife's friends have one set of rules for them and another for you as a Westerner. They will accuse you of being rude to them and then enage in behaviors that are blatantly offensive to you without thinking twice about it.

5. Beware the Babushka! You will never get rid of your mother in law. She feels she has the Orthodox God's divine directive to infringe upon your marriage in any way she can. She will invade your privacy in any any every way without regard to what it wll do to your marriage. And yes she can do it over the phone lines as effectively as if she were there in person.

6. Russians lived in a society where for years the government took care of and ruled every aspect of their lives. As a result they seem to have a entitlement mentality that everyone owes them something. Last summer I worked with many Russians back in America and the girls were very lazy and didn't show up for work very often and lost their jobs frequently.

7. I know it sounds ethnocentric but Russian culture to us Westerners can be jackhammer annoying. The music, the movies, the humor, you name it. I put up with it for a longtime and tried to accomodate my wife in every way possible but she (like all spouses of other American men I know who married Ruskayas) never adaptred to our culture and regularly rubbed my face in hers at every possible moment.

8. You can't trust their friends. Even they don't trust their friends. My wife would hide all our valuables (jewelry, portable electronics, dvds, etc) every time her friends would come over. Her friends were notorious for lifting things and my wife would tell me that it s just a common thing in their culture because the distrust level even among friends is high.

9. Russians have had it rough especially in the past 15 years with the reorganization of their government and the rollercoaster ride of everyday life that they must deal with. The Russians are rated as being one of the most disatisfied populations on earth. Conversely, the Philippines whose population is equally poor and poorly governed has one of the more contented populations in the world.

I can of course be accused of being biased in my sweeping generalizations. But I have known many, many other men who married a Russian and had frighteningly similar stories and observations. Some I met through working relationships as a salesman and some I corresponded with online. Out of about 25 people that I knew and talked with 23 had been either divorced for similar reasons as I or were on the rocks in their relationships. The two that didn't had been recently married. Make no mistake about it, I loved my wife dearly. But the intrusive babushka, the untrustworthy, rude friends, and the unrealistic expectations my wife eventually subscribed to after years of brainwashing by her realtives finally took their toll on us. If you want to date or have sex with a Russian and if she's hot enough then by all means go for it. But if they start talking marriage then my advice is simply RUN LIKE HELL!
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Russian friend who lives in Washington, DC, who says he avoids Russians like the plague. Other posters here have said in their experience, Russians apparently will not think twice about killing one of their own.

I'd say the above poster has told a story similar to many men who got wives from Russia via mail-order. Sad indeed.
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xingyiman



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a Russian friend who lives in Washington, DC, who says he avoids Russians like the plague. Other posters here have said in their experience, Russians apparently will not think twice about killing one of their own.

I'd say the above poster has told a story similar to many men who got wives from Russia via mail-order. Sad indeed.


My wife wasn't a "mail order" I actually met her on a trip to Russia. But most of the guys I know of that are married to Russians got them that way. As for the Russians killing their own, thats pretty much a Russian Mafia thing. Those guys will waste anything that wont waste them first. Russians are in a class all by themselves when it comes to behavior. Most of the Russians I have known behaved remarkably similar. In all I would say that they are trouble and a catastrophe waiting to happen to any Westerner. There are very many Russian women that are stunningly gorgeous as was my wife, but their culture is nothing remotely similar to ours and I would go so far as to say downright opposite in every respect. It can get really trying sometimes because you make lots of concessions to accomodate them but they will not so the same to you. Also Russians have a superiority complex about themsleves and their culture. It may sound like I do in my analysis of them but my wife came to live in Americ with me. The things that worked for her in her culture would not here. If I would move to Russia I would have to adopt to their ways.
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was really looking forward to meeting Russian women here but its been a disappointment. Its a personal taste thing so far, but I haven't been overwhelmed by their beauty. A few times yes, but largely its been no big thrill. Don't get offended, my sense of beauty is mine and its been formed without the Russians as they weren't part of The USA's fabric of society until very recently.

Russians are easily the most cruel people on earth. They treat each other like dirt and it looks like they will treat you equally. Baltic women are available as are Eastern European women. All without the baggage.

I am looking forward to my trans-siberia trip - Vladivostock, Irkutsk, Khabarovsk. Well, maybe not so much any more.
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yingyiman,

You post some acute observations......I could really pull apart a few but for the most part they are revealing..

I lived quite a few years in Russia and russified Ukraine...spoke Czech and picked up Russian as well as Ukrainian easily enough.....so I have a few observations. NO, never married a Russian but if they do love you....you are set. Otherwise, as you stated, they are climbing the proverbial pecking order ladder.

violent? yes. Tender Yes.....an anecdote from Gyorgy Faludi a famous Hungarian poet (102 and now shacked up with a 33 year old.!!).. During the Hungarian revolution, he comments on observing a Russian tank roaring down the street and blowing away buildings indiscriminently......an old woman appears and is trying to cross the street. The tank stops and out of the turret pops a young baby faced Russian teenager...He screams "Babuska!! GEt a move on! We have work to do!!"....says something about that special mix which is the Slavic soul. I also like Nietzsche's anecdote about Russians ........they will march on through snow, freezing temperatures with their guns, no food....march and march....But once they are tired, they will lay down and not move...freeze to death. A kind of fatalism sets in , is part of their makeup and soul.

I agree with the noise, the lack of order/cleanliness..... I agree Russians are a paradox but I love them just the same....Guys have it sooooo easy there...only place where I saw all the construction workers were women!!!! The men were too busy talking and drinking and waiting for their wives to get home and make dinner!!!

Cultural imperialism? Of course but so too has the Chinese, the Americans and for the most part Koreans....they think they are the best, so clean, so pure......

But to sum up my rather winded post....the most important thing to know is that yes, a Russian woman wants something!!! But so too do most of the women I know...Same everywhere in the world.

So are you now going down to the phillipines.????

DD
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So are you now going down to the phillipines.????


Actually I have a Filipina girlfriend from Daegu. I was in the Philippines last year and I was blown away by the attitudes of the women there. Of course like in every culture there are good and bad ones but it was my observation that there are lots of good ones in comparison. You have some intersting observs as well and I'm sure a lot of insight as you have lived there for so long. I have just met so many guys that have been kicked in the nuts by Russian women that I almost lost count. And the wierd thing is we ALL have the SAME stories! It is really unsettling to listen to a person qualifying as a complete stranger sit down and start giving you what could just as well be the finite details of the past however many years of your life! Deja vous! Anyway I've been stung but I wouldn't trade the happiest years of my marriage for anything in the world. And when it comes right down to it, I would probably dive back in and take a Russian gal over an American. The biggest trial of my marriage was my wife being torn between actually being my wife or bowing to her relatives every whim offered in the form of advice from people who live 8,000 miles away and have never set foot in America. If you could actually keep her away from them it was ok but that is next to impossible.
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xingyiman



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But to sum up my rather winded post....the most important thing to know is that yes, a Russian woman wants something!!! But so too do most of the women I know...Same everywhere in the world.


I think the main difference in comparing Russian women to American women would be that the Russian women know exactly what they want but often dont have a clue about how to go about getting it. American women are confused and don't know what the heck they really want let alone how to get whatever social whim they subscribe to tells them is "in".
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kermo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stumptown wrote:
What about the ones who work at Everland or Lotte World? How much do you think they are pulling in a month. My ex said they make about 2 mil a month. I tried to talk to a couple of them last time I was at Everland, but they're pretty standoffish.


They don't make nearly as much as 2 million. I used to live in Jeondaeri, the village just outside the gates at Everland, where many of the performers lived. I passed them on the street all the time, and although usually our exchanges were limited to "Priviet!" ("Hi" in Russian) we sometimes talked about their living conditions. These people live in small apartments crowded with other performers, sometimes without the means to even cook for themselves (they're supposed to rely on the cafeteria at work, which was tough for the Rastafarian vegetarian South African limbo artist who used to whistle under my window from time to time... but that's another story.)
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Lemonade



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went on a date once with a very good looking Russian guy. The entire date he wanted to discuss his obesession with race cars that he liked to drive well over 120mph on the expressway. He blew engines in bran new cars, was arrested many times and his cars impounded. I couldn't understand why he didn't take them to a track and race them. He said, "I think it's no big deal to get tickets for speeding and my insurance is high. I don't care." I'm sure he was telling me the truth, especially since I watched him take off and drive his new vett with smoking tires. Truely crazy and a rather boring date overall. Easy on the eyes, plenty of money to burn but no conversation skills... rather dull.
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