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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

would English exist without German spelling, or Finish spelling, or what about french spelling?

Hey Brits, where you would be without that German sense of ambition? Who tore down your wall?

Hey Canadians, where would you be without the french (anyone from Quebec- that is the only province that matters, right?)
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xeno439



Joined: 30 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the Americans are using a bastardised version of English, why should I have to change what I know to conform to some narrow minded individuals idea that his language choice is better than mine. Let the kids learn that we are not all American, we think and act differently and our English is different.

This is truly an amazing statement. How many times have you heard of English being a ba$tard language? So, Americans use a bastardized version of a ba$tard language. So what?

Dumbed down? No. Efficient. Austere? Perhaps. Blame the Puritans.
Anyway, it isn't about style, it's about who is influencing the world the most at this exact moment in history. I think that answer is clear.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diablo3 wrote:
Why teach American English when the majority of teachers in Korea are non-American?


Until recently, I'd say that most of Korea's dealings were with America. More Koreans immigrate to Canada/Australia/NZ over the USA but you don't hear many Korean mothers saying "I want my boy to go to McGill!" No. It's Harvard all the way.

Although I'm Canadian, I take the Canadian media's perspective on American spellings (CP style has, however, gone back to Canadian spelling): most of Canada's communication is with the USA and not England. Hence, write like the biggest market.
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stat



Joined: 22 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: ANSWER: Reply with quote

TOIEC's changing. No longer is it just U.S. English. From this year (iirc) British English and Oz English will also be included to reflect global realities.

tough *beep*.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will spell the British English way until the day I die.

Organisation, Colour, favour.

Only Americans spell the way they do in this world.
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xeno439



Joined: 30 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

British English = The Queen's English
American English = God's English

Ha ha. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously? No one else here has heard of how American English diverged? It was a rather passionate and intellectually driven movement at the time. I read about it in a Bill Bryson book.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380715430/102-0588815-3209706?v=glance&n=283155
Noah Webster and Mark Twain were two of the leading minds behind this effort to conform spelling to phonetics. Without Webster's proposals we might still be spelling words like "musick" and "waggon."
This link might be useful.
http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett/history-SR.htm
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's funny.

"What's 'booty'"

"Oh. Thats a "trunk"'

Those British movies like "Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" are quite entertaining, but what the actors are saying is another question.
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xeno439



Joined: 30 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
Seriously? No one else here has heard of how American English diverged? It was a rather passionate and intellectually driven movement at the time. I read about it in a Bill Bryson book.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380715430/102-0588815-3209706?v=glance&n=283155
Noah Webster and Mark Twain were two of the leading minds behind this effort to conform spelling to phonetics. Without Webster's proposals we might still be spelling words like "musick" and "waggon."
This link might be useful.
http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett/history-SR.htm

I had no idea. Reminds of something similar to what Sejong and his cohorts took on a few centuries previous. People want to hold on to spellings like it is vital to one's cultural identity. Maybe it is. I wonder how the French would react to someone fomenting a phonetic based system of spelling. Our little debate here wouldn't compare to the uproar they would unleash in the face of "reform". Spanish seems to be the only European language with a sensible phonetic spelling structure, save a few exceptions.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waggo wrote:
OiGirl wrote:
What is a public house?


Its a PUB!....Nobody even in England says Public House.

Oh, of course! I know what a pub is...might even use that word myself, depending on the place...
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:


"What's 'booty'"

"Oh. Thats a "trunk"'

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It's called the 'boot'.
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AbbeFaria



Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of you people are unbelievably bitter and hostile. As much as you may not like it, American culture does saturate the market, as the other person said. I'm not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing, it just is. It's only natural that the kids here are going to come across more American spellings than any other kind in their day-to-day activities. The US has been here for 50+ years.

And, just out of curiosity, what makes the British or Canadian spelling right? In the case of Brits who are this militant, is it just because you had it first? The only language that doesn't change is a dead one. You make it sound like dropping the "u" in color means you'll be annexed to the U.S., have to start calling football soccer, dismantle the parliment and exile the queen mum. All it is is something different. Everyone around here is so accepting of other cultures, no matter what crazy crap they do, except when it comes to the U.S. Then it's just "fuc# you guys, you all suck, take your Zee and shove it up your a$$."

Christ. Before I left the U.S. I held the rest of the world in awe. I couldn't wait to get out and look around. I had no animosity for any culture (except muslims) and it never entered my mind that I should be bothered by such a small and pathetic thing as a "u" or "s". It was a little weird for me when I'd see it, kind of quirky, but it sure as hell wasn't worth name-calling and personal attacks. For someone who has practically no hands-on experience with other cultures, some of you folks are horrible representatives for your respective countries.

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Dodgy Al



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AbbeFaria wrote:
Some of you people are unbelievably bitter and hostile. ����


look.mirror.
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AbbeFaria



Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodgy Al wrote:
AbbeFaria wrote:
Some of you people are unbelievably bitter and hostile. ����


look.mirror.


I'm not bitter at all, I'm disgusted. It doesn't matter to me how it's spelled. As far as I'm concerned both of them are right. One isn't better than the other. I learned this way, other's learned that way. If my director said to me one day that I need to use a british version, I'd explain to her that I'll probably screw it up since I have 26 years of training the other way, but I wouldn't have a racial hatred of it.

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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's going a bit far there, Abbefaria, but your basic point ("You make it sound like dropping the "u" in color means you'll be annexed to the U.S.") I agree with.
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