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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: National Tax Office and tax rates Reply with quote

So all of the posts in this forum about variable tax rates and tax documents from the tax office, and the rest got me interested in my school's reason for taking 3.3 % from my paycheck. Another teacher and I went to the tax office and sat down with someone from the investigative department (of course we had a friend who spoke fluent korean). Now HE SAID: 3.3 % is correct for certain nationalities with E-2 visas.

I don't know if he just didn't want us there, or what, but it doesn't make sense because on the webpage http://www.nts.go.kr/eng/default.html it has the little computer thing that figures out how much you should be paying.

WHAT IS GOING ON?

I from America, I've been here 9 months, My boss is taking 3.3 % (66.00 a month) and I need some help because that jerk at the office was not at all helpful. What is the tax document (the one that is a formal tax reciept that your boss should give you) called?
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: National Tax Office and tax rates Reply with quote

icnelly wrote:
So all of the posts in this forum about variable tax rates and tax documents from the tax office, and the rest got me interested in my school's reason for taking 3.3 % from my paycheck. Another teacher and I went to the tax office and sat down with someone from the investigative department (of course we had a friend who spoke fluent korean). Now HE SAID: 3.3 % is correct for certain nationalities with E-2 visas.

I don't know if he just didn't want us there, or what, but it doesn't make sense because on the webpage http://www.nts.go.kr/eng/default.html it has the little computer thing that figures out how much you should be paying.

WHAT IS GOING ON?

I from America, I've been here 9 months, My boss is taking 3.3 % (66.00 a month) and I need some help because that jerk at the office was not at all helpful. What is the tax document (the one that is a formal tax reciept that your boss should give you) called?


Your boss is riping you off. Tax rate is 3% and its about 33 -34 k a month.

You shouldn't be taxed on 2 mil, roughly only a 1.2 mil is taxable.

Tell your boss that if he doesn't fix the tax you will call the NTT and they will get a hold of him, to straighten the tax rate out.

Here is the Korean link to tax form http://www.nts.go.kr/front/service/refer_cal/jungsan2005/refer_2005jungsan.asp

Here is the English version.

http://nts.go.kr/front/service/refer_cal/jungsan2005/eng/refer_2005jungsan_eng.asp
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vox



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Location: Jeollabukdo

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:59 am    Post subject: Actually... Reply with quote

actually the tax rate is 3.3% and if you are working on a contract for a year in Gyeonggi-do province then you are being taxed correctly. You must have done something wrong on the computer window on the nts site.

We went through this last year with 6 foreign teachers in Ilsan, (Canadians, Aussies, and NZers) 2 of which were in Korea for 3 years each. I've never heard of a 1.2 mill cap on taxable income and I've talked to a lot of other teachers about tax rates. Just trying to save you an unnecessary headache. If you do find out different please post otherwise I think you'll find 66,000KRW/mo on 2 million/mo is pretty standard.
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: Actually... Reply with quote

vox wrote:
actually the tax rate is 3.3% and if you are working on a contract for a year in Gyeonggi-do province then you are being taxed correctly. You must have done something wrong on the computer window on the nts site.

We went through this last year with 6 foreign teachers in Ilsan, (Canadians, Aussies, and NZers) 2 of which were in Korea for 3 years each. I've never heard of a 1.2 mill cap on taxable income and I've talked to a lot of other teachers about tax rates. Just trying to save you an unnecessary headache. If you do find out different please post otherwise I think you'll find 66,000KRW/mo on 2 million/mo is pretty standard.


I called NTT office talked to the main support for English helpline and he said its 3%. If you think its other wise your getting ripped off buddy. 66k is a rip off.
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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called the hotline to ask some questions. They said that it depends on if you are a resident/non resident and what type of work you do and what that work is classified as.

The other teacher I went through all of this stuff with sat down with the director and asked for the tax document (the proper form for a monthly paystub): that piece of paper will have all of the correct information on it. I just have to wait to get it (of course).
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Canada anyway, if you are out of the country for 183 days and have no significant primary ties to Canada and minimal secondary ones, you are legally a non-resident for tax purposes. Most people on an E-2 visa in Korea are a resident for the time they are here due to registration with immigration. If you started your contract in December of 2005, you may not be a resident of Korea for the 2005 tax year; however, you are for the 2006 tax year.
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IwalkAlone



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Actually... Reply with quote

Wrench wrote:
vox wrote:
actually the tax rate is 3.3% and if you are working on a contract for a year in Gyeonggi-do province then you are being taxed correctly. You must have done something wrong on the computer window on the nts site.

We went through this last year with 6 foreign teachers in Ilsan, (Canadians, Aussies, and NZers) 2 of which were in Korea for 3 years each. I've never heard of a 1.2 mill cap on taxable income and I've talked to a lot of other teachers about tax rates. Just trying to save you an unnecessary headache. If you do find out different please post otherwise I think you'll find 66,000KRW/mo on 2 million/mo is pretty standard.


I called NTT office talked to the main support for English helpline and he said its 3%. If you think its other wise your getting ripped off buddy. 66k is a rip off.


Wrench....3% of 2mill is roughly 66,000....where are you going with this argument??
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what Wrench was getting at is that a lot of people are taxed too much. Should be 28,950won for 2mil plus about 3,000won for resident tax, not 66,000won. What's that? 1.45%?
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, what's calculated on NTS's website is the maximum. Your taxes are less if you pay into pension and/or medical. The actual tax for a resident (and that's what you are on an E-2 Wink ) is 9%. But that's on a very small amount after all dedcutions are made.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
Actually, what's calculated on NTS's website is the maximum. Your taxes are less if you pay into pension and/or medical. The actual tax for a resident (and that's what you are on an E-2 Wink ) is 9%. But that's on a very small amount after all dedcutions are made.


So, this nine percent you're mentioning includes what? Is it 4.5% for pension, 2.24% for health, and ~3% for other taxes(income, resident, worker's compensation, and social welfare)? If so, that might clear up a lot of confusion for everyone, myself included.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denverdeath wrote:
jacl wrote:
Actually, what's calculated on NTS's website is the maximum. Your taxes are less if you pay into pension and/or medical. The actual tax for a resident (and that's what you are on an E-2 Wink ) is 9%. But that's on a very small amount after all dedcutions are made.


So, this nine percent you're mentioning includes what? Is it 4.5% for pension, 2.24% for health, and ~3% for other taxes(income, resident, worker's compensation, and social welfare)? If so, that might clear up a lot of confusion for everyone, myself included.


Well, someone did a calculation for me on one of my threads on taxes. It really made sense. Pension and medical is deductible. There are a few other deductions as well. After all deductions are made, your left with a really low taxable income. The tax on this low taxable is 9%.

I'll copy and paste that post. Hold on.
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IwalkAlone



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9% bracket is what most teacher's incomes fall into.

Your entire income is not taxable however.

Don't confuse withholding tax of 1-5% with income tax. Income tax is based on your entire income once the tax year is completed.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IwalkAlone wrote:
9% bracket is what most teacher's incomes fall into.

Your entire income is not taxable however.

Don't confuse withholding tax of 1-5% with income tax. Income tax is based on your entire income once the tax year is completed.


IwalkAlone wrote:

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ok here goes...
10 months in korean tax year X 2.2 salary = 22,000,000
Your tax bracket allows you to deduct = -11,050,000
You are 1 dependent allows you to deduct= -1,000,000
Pension premium allows you to deduct= -985,000 (10 months worth)
Special basic min. deduction given to all taxpayers= -600,000
After all deductions have been made, taxable income= 7,365,000
taxable income X tax rate (9%) = 662,850
Salary and wage worker = class A income = further deduction= -323,855
resident tax is 10% of income tax = +33,900
Tax that you owe = 372,890


This was for the 10 months I worked last year. But, like IwalkAlone wrote, this is just for when you file your taxes. Withholding tax is just that. As long as it's being paid, you can get your money back. I paid 814,000 Won in taxes last year. Overtime was under the table. Laughing Looks like I'll get over 400,000 Won back. Make pay sheets showing all the deductions and get a tax certificate from your boss. I'm not happy right now because I don't think he's paid them. I grilled him today about this once again. He says that there are these other people who are taking care of his taxes and that he doesn't care if they are low or high, but it's just his reverse psychological babble. They're supposed to forward your tax contributions by the 10th of every month. Individually for each employee.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay. A person on another board said that their employer stated that they would be taxed 3% on 2mil. But, when you go to the NTS web-site, the number they give(28,950) for withholding tax is only 1.45%. Actually, what the hell is withholding tax...it's monthly income tax, isn't it? Also, where does the 3% come from that many people talk about? Is that supposed to be a combo of withholding tax, resident tax, worker's compensation, and social welfare...the last two are things this person's boss was trying to say were a necessity once they were registered with the pension program and I'm trying to determine if it's yet another scam or not. The OP here said that the tax man said that 3% is correct. If this worker's compensation(Disabled only Security Insurance?) and social welfare(Other Security Insurance?) can be found on the NTS web-site's quick form, then I'm happy. And, when you fill out the form, do you only sum up your monthly withholding amts, in this case 60,000x12(or whatever months you worked during the tax year), and fill in the amts deducted for pension and health only, or are you supposed to include sth else? By this, I mean sth else other than the additional health expenses, credit card garbage, and the like. I understand the forms and what you guys are posting, I just want to make sure that I understand how to fill out the form the right way, and also know what the true rate is supposed to be on 2mil. Basically, should this person be taxed 1.45% or 3%? If it is in fact 3%, what comprises the other 1.55%?

Actually the OP didn't mention their base salary, so I don't know what the 3.3% is based upon.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For example, I just did this person's taxes based on 2mil with 28,950 in taxes monthly, 90,000 in pension monthly, and 44,800 in health monthly, and it tells me that s/he owes a grand total of 7,520won after a correction of 35,492 for resident/inhabitant tax. Therefore, I wonder why her boss tells her that she should be deducted 3% as this results in a fairly high overpayment(like in jacl's case) Again, it's fine as long as the taxes are being done.
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