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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| No, man. Because that's what desperate and ruthless dictators bent on militarizing as much of their citizenry they can get their hands on will do. |
Doesnt that pretty much describe Bush's tactics right now? Enlistment drives in high schools, empty promises, calling up paper units, all to feed 'his' war! |
You are trolling again, no?
Comparing W. Bush to Saddam makes about as much sense as comparing Castro to Hitler. But here's your clarification...
Saddam, a dictator, waged some pretty brutal, suppressive and expansionist wars in his time against his own people and several of his neighbors, took hostages and held them in Bagdad, used chemical weapons, all supported by a huge conscript army, and when push came to shove, he expanded that army by adding children to its ranks.
W. Bush, an unpopular president of a democracy, is waging an unjust war against this dictator, supported by an all-volunteer, professional army consisting of adults only, and as push comes to shove, in the form of recruitment shortages, the Pentagon has expanded the maximum age of enlistees in the Army, reserves, and National Guard to add older people, rather than drafting children.
The military has actively recruited from high school seniors for decades. This is not a W. Bush invention. This is standard practice. It is not comparable to Saddam drafting 17-year-olds to be thrown in front of the advancing U.S. armed forces in 1990-1991.
Guys like you hate the U.S. so bad, it is like pulling teeth to get you to admit that there are differences, but if you cannot see differences between what Saddam did and stood for, and what W. Bush has done and stands for, then you are totally blinded by your antiAmericanism. |
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Sooke
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: |
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" "We will show the world America is a paper tiger." And the next day Iraq began drafting 17-year-olds."
Yes, because thats what strong armies do. |
No, man. Because that's what desperate and ruthless dictators bent on militarizing as much of their citizenry they can get their hands on will do.
How much it hurts you to admit that the U.S. is sometimes in the right...even to the point of defending Saddam's virtue in 1990-1991. Unbelievable. |
OK, you're a tit.
My comment was a tongue-in-cheek dis at Saddam. You took it as supporting Saddam's virtue. Tool. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Saddam, a dictator, waged some pretty brutal, suppressive and expansionist wars in his time against his own people and several of his neighbors, took hostages and held them in Bagdad, used chemical weapons, all supported by a huge conscript army, and when push came to shove, he expanded that army by adding children to its ranks. |
Are you forgetting that he did all this with the support of the American government...they supplied military equipment and training to his forces. Or is this yet another convenient lapse in memory?
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| W. Bush, an unpopular president of a democracy, is waging an unjust war against this dictator, supported by an all-volunteer, professional army consisting of adults only, and as push comes to shove, in the form of recruitment shortages, the Pentagon has expanded the maximum age of enlistees in the Army, reserves, and National Guard to add older people, rather than drafting children. |
Well at least you admit he is unpopular and that the war is unjust. Adults only  It would be interesting to know the average age of soldiers fighting in the gulf...in Vietnam the average age was 19...old enough to die but not old enough to vote 
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| The military has actively recruited from high school seniors for decades. This is not a W. Bush invention. This is standard practice. It is not comparable to Saddam drafting 17-year-olds to be thrown in front of the advancing U.S. armed forces in 1990-1991. |
Says you. He is recruiting young people and sending them into combat zones with the barest minimum of training.
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| Guys like you hate the U.S. so bad, it is like pulling teeth to get you to admit that there are differences, but if you cannot see differences between what Saddam did and stood for, and what W. Bush has done and stands for, then you are totally blinded by your antiAmericanism. |
Dont actually hate the US, believe it or not. I just hate the stupidity of americans like yourself who say that USA has nothing to apologise for.
Perhaps you are the one blinded by your fanatical patriotism? I do see what Bush stands for..he stands for oil, big business and money money money. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Enjoy yourself. |
I've heard he does. Obsessively. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Bottled Water: Nectar of the Frauds?
Abid Aslam, OneWorld US
Sat Feb 4, 4:49 PM ET
WASHINGTON, D.C., Feb 4 (OneWorld) - Water, water everywhere and we are duped into buying it bottled.
Consumers spend a collective $100 billion every year on bottled water in the belief--often mistaken, as it happens--that this is better for us than what flows from our taps, according to environmental think tank the Earth Policy Institute (EPI).
For a fraction of that sum, everyone on the planet could have safe drinking water and proper sanitation, the Washington, D.C.-based organization said this week.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/oneworld/45361268291139089785;_ylt=AueFZHMsFQPIMfb5hVGoZE0DW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Good post, Manner of Speaking.
I'll wager, though, that as the global crisis picks up momentum, these issues will have to be dealt with in Canada, certainly in the next thirty years or so.
In any case, do you know if the Canadian govt claims "imminent domain" over Canadian lands? If so, that might be the most practical mechanism to export water. |
Well, as I said in my post, constitutionally and legally I don't even think the Canadian government even has the power to export water or to regulate its export. The legal concept of eminent domain doesn't apply because all surface water is in the public domain anyway.
The basics of contract law state that in order for a business exchange or a contract to take place, there must be a willing buyer and a willing seller. What I tried to point out above is that although there may be a willing buyer(s) in the US, there is no willing seller (Canada). The "sale" of water is an unfamiliar concept in Canada and Canadian thought, as well as Canadian law. In addition, Canadians feel no need or urgency to sell water (in the way we've been discussing), and regardless of what happens in the rest of the world, water shortages in North America would be essentially a US issue. (Practically speaking there is no one else for Canada to "export" water to.) |
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