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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| plato's republic wrote: |
| How's he going to work for a multinational company without a degree Joe? |
Sleeping with the boss, ofcourse! |
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Col.Brandon

Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| It probably is true, but it's also rude. |
Sometimes people need a wakeup call. The OP might go through their whole life without achieving anything because nobody wanted to offend them. Life's tough. Harden up. Get off your arse and do something, or deal with the consequences of doing nothing. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| You guys are being a bit harsh. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| You guys are being a bit harsh. |
I'll tell you what's harsh...
While growing up, my house was a foster house. There was one boy whose life was worse than 98% of the poor kids in China (and believe me, that is not an overstatement). He stayed with us for quite awhile. I can't really say why or how long due to law. His life was harsh. But he is now getting married with a nice girl, has a stable labour job, has a child on the way (maybe too early, but...) and has moved into a nice house he is going to fix up. I can tell you this kid could never have gone to university. It would have been impossible, even if someone was watching over him 24/7. Now, he did manage to pull himself out and doesn't feel sorry for himself, but due to his past, university is not an option. I have a couple more stories like that too.
Now I don't think the OP should work illegally. This is never a good thing, and the OP should maybe try China. But some of you guys are being way to harsh and should clam up unless you know the guy's history and living situation. |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: Dear OP |
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I do not understand why you are deperate? You stated your grandfather died whom you had cared for and that he was your only faily and now you wish to come to Korea and even be willing to work in a factory. You are from the UK, not Bangladesh or the Philippines? I think many of us can not reconcile your stateent about being desperate? Are you running from something? It is none of my business, but you posted this here and wish our advice without telling us enough info.
If you can speak UK English and know Mandaring then you might be more marketbale than you realise, but not without a degree.
I earned my Bachelor's and Master's while working. It is possible and many have done it that way.
There are many things I would like to do but without the required qulaifications or circumstances, I simply can not do them. I am 52 and that is one thing that makes me less marketable than my younger colleagues. That is just the way it goes.
If you are desperate to come to Korea (??) then you will do whatever needs to be done to get here properly.
I think before we can help you we need to understand you more.
How old are you now?
Did you finish your O levels? Do you have any "A" levels? Do you have any college at all?
Do you have any work experience outside of being a caretaker?
Do you speak fluent Mandarin?
Do you expect a place her to send you the proverbial ticket to get here, or do you have enough pounds to come on your own?
Also, I am very curious as to the reasons you have this fascination with South Korea?
The last thing you want to get stranded in Asia with any money.
Actually, I would suggest some grief counseling. I am sure you loved your grandfather very much and want to spread your wings abit, but you need to proper sky to fly in first |
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stat
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear about your granddad. Hope you make it to Korea.
The ESL market in Korea is huge, if you've got your a-levels I'm sure you can get here and live here. You wouldn't have a lot of money, but you'd be here, which seems to be the more important thing for you.
If you don't want it to be illegal, come here as a student by enrolling on a language course or something. Once you're here, you could probably find some cash-in-hand teaching work to get you a bit of pocket money - an action that I'm sure we all condemn yet accept.
PM me if you want any more advice.
ps - I wouldn't take any criticisms of your BB English from a bunch of guys who can't spell/type themselves. Don't worry about it, there's a lot of 'LAH's here (Losers At Home, heard the acronym last week, found it funny ) |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear about your granddad. Hope you make it to Korea.
The ESL market in Korea is huge, if you've got your a-levels I'm sure you can get here and live here. You wouldn't have a lot of money, but you'd be here, which seems to be the more important thing for you.
If you don't want it to be illegal, come here as a student by enrolling on a language course or something. Once you're here, you could probably find some cash-in-hand teaching work to get you a bit of pocket money - an action that I'm sure we all condemn yet accept.
PM me if you want any more advice.
ps - I wouldn't take any criticisms of your BB English from a bunch of guys who can't spell/type themselves. Don't worry about it, there's a lot of 'LAH's here (Losers At Home, heard the acronym last week, found it funny ) |
If he's going to work here illegally he shouldn't come. Period. This is why we have to get transcripts and our degree verified.
I agree about the LAH... though the majority of those are people without degrees or fake degrees coming here and teaching. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| stat wrote: |
Sorry to hear about your granddad. Hope you make it to Korea.
The ESL market in Korea is huge, if you've got your a-levels I'm sure you can get here and live here. You wouldn't have a lot of money, but you'd be here, which seems to be the more important thing for you.
If you don't want it to be illegal, come here as a student by enrolling on a language course or something. Once you're here, you could probably find some cash-in-hand teaching work to get you a bit of pocket money - an action that I'm sure we all condemn yet accept.
PM me if you want any more advice.
ps - I wouldn't take any criticisms of your BB English from a bunch of guys who can't spell/type themselves. Don't worry about it, there's a lot of 'LAH's here (Losers At Home, heard the acronym last week, found it funny ) |
If he's going to work here illegally he shouldn't come. Period. This is why we have to get transcripts and our degree verified.
I agree about the LAH... though the majority of those are people without degrees or fake degrees coming here and teaching. |
Oh, I have met a fair number of losers with degrees too. The problem is a loser is a loser, degree or no. But the degree means that the loser actually thinks he (usually not girls in my experience) is smarter because of it, and is much more annoying. |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Dear OP |
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| Did you finish your O levels? Do you have any "A" levels? Do you have any college at all? |
Man, that doesn't make any sense to me. All I know about the British education system is that you take your O.W.L.s first and your N.E.W.T.s a few years later. |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| joe_doufu wrote: |
4) Join the U.S. Army. You don't have to be a US citizen.
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Is that true? |
Yes. You have to have a green card, though. I'm not sure if the Army will sponsor you for the green card application, or if you must get one first before joining up. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| joe_doufu wrote: |
4) Join the U.S. Army. You don't have to be a US citizen.
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Is that true? |
Yes. You have to have a green card, though. I'm not sure if the Army will sponsor you for the green card application, or if you must get one first before joining up. |
Can you become an officer if you have a degree? |
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aaronuk
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| If you're clearly UNQUALIFIED to teach in this country, we have an obligation to tell you to shove off. Why should we be silent about unqualified people who will only end up getting us all painted with the same brush? Bad teachers affect us all. |
Comments like this are being too harsh. I started this thread to ask for advice.
Is working in Korea really not possible for a none-grad? If I can not find a job as a teacher, fair enough thanks for the advice but is it really neccessary for you to tell me to "shove off" for seeking alternatives? I have never had any intentions of working illegally or giving the current teachers a bad name.
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I didnt intend to come here to tell my story but now its seems neccessary to separate the advice from the criticism.
Prior to looking after my grandfather I was in second year of university studying a Ba Economics degree, I have already completed College and attained AABB in A levels. At the same time I also had to balance work.
After my gandfather was diagnosed I gave to studying, I worked and looked after him. 2003 I opened by own restaurant, by 2005 I had a chain of four restaurants in London.
I wouldnt say i have achieved a lot but at least I have achieved something in my life. End of 2005 my grandfather passes away. After grieving I sell all my businesses and donated the majority to AgeConcern and IndependantAge.
What is important in Life? Its not money, its time and experiences. Thats why I want to leave everything behind and travel while I still can.
I dont expect you all to believe me, but these are my reasons. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| we have an obligation to tell you to shove off. |
we have NO such obligation.
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| Why should we be silent about unqualified people who will only end up getting us all painted with the same brush? Bad teachers affect us all. |
Illegal teachers and BAD teachers aren't the same thing. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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aaronuk,
Since you came for advice...
My advice is that you go back to the university and get your degree while you are still young. This will open many more doors for you. Korea will still be here if you want to come. There will be many other options as well. Teaching in Korea is great for some and misery to others. Your education is forever and you can take it with you wherever you go. You don't have to use it, you can still get that factory job for 6 US dollars per hour if you want it, but you'll have choices.
You can probably finish your degree quickly since you've already started it. Take a vacation, have fun, meet some chicks and go back to school next term. |
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stat
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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interesting story aaronuk. Just out of interest, why are you so keen to come to Korea?
lol @ joe_doufu's post ^^ |
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