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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| Grotto wrote: |
| If they are willing to throw a mil won your way then I would do it.....only a sucker works for free! |
And you're going to be teaching in Canada soon? Good luck with that after picking up this 'I am contract king' attitude in Korea. If it's not expressly in the contract, I don't do it. Man are you in for a surprise. I've never taught outside of Korea, but I've heard enough complaints about the extra out-of-classroom stuff from teachers who have taught in Canada.
Have you ever heard of doing something just to be nice?
The first time I did it, I got my apt rent-free for the last 2 weeks while I was in Korea. Not much, but I didn't ask for anything and didn't expect anything. It's amazing what nice people end up doing for each other sometimes. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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I've been teaching a week so far. The school board gave me 500$ to move up there, we now have 10 days off for convention and they gave me another 350$ to go to that, and they gave me 200$ for coming up for an interview.
I'm not complaining...not yet anyhow.
I teach seven 45 minute classes a day and get paid about 58,000$ a year....more when the new collective agreement goes into effect. I'm living in a nice large 3 bedroom house with an absolutely incredible view over a lake. At night I look up and the sky is filled with stars, the air is clean and clear and I have been lucky enough to see one moose, several deer(whitetail), some elk, and a wolf.
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Have you ever heard of doing something just to be nice?
The first time I did it, I got my apt rent-free for the last 2 weeks while I was in Korea. Not much, but I didn't ask for anything and didn't expect anything. It's amazing what nice people end up doing for each other sometimes. |
Sure i've heard about doing something just to be nice.....and i've done it dozens of times....nice is bringing someone some homemade cookies, giving them a photo, helping them out with a bag of groceries, giving someone a few bucks to help them pay for their groceries...thats nice. Acting as a recruiter so your soon to be ex-boss can save a few bucks is sucker work. |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Grotto wrote: |
I teach seven 45 minute classes a day and get paid about 58,000$ a year....more when the new collective agreement goes into effect. I'm living in a nice large 3 bedroom house with an absolutely incredible view over a lake. At night I look up and the sky is filled with stars, the air is clean and clear and I have been lucky enough to see one moose, several deer(whitetail), some elk, and a wolf.
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I'm not denying all the positives that you're getting back in Canada - fresh air, larger apartment, open spaces, etc. I've got those too. But, you're not one to want to work one second more than contracted. That's just not going to happen in Canada. Those 7-45 minute classes are going to end up being a lot more than that. That's what I've heard. I have no reason to doubt these teachers since I remember my teachers often having to bring home boxes of tests to check or watching kiddies in the playground during the break or lunch hour. Then there's some of the other after-hours crap they have to do.
I wouldn't mind teaching in Canada. I'm just saying it's a little amusing to hear about the guy who preaches a strict contract adherence going to Canada where it's going to be more than just teaching. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| pegpig wrote: |
| Grotto wrote: |
I teach seven 45 minute classes a day and get paid about 58,000$ a year....more when the new collective agreement goes into effect. I'm living in a nice large 3 bedroom house with an absolutely incredible view over a lake. At night I look up and the sky is filled with stars, the air is clean and clear and I have been lucky enough to see one moose, several deer(whitetail), some elk, and a wolf.
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I'm not denying all the positives that you're getting back in Canada - fresh air, larger apartment, open spaces, etc. I've got those too. But, you're not one to want to work one second more than contracted. That's just not going to happen in Canada. Those 7-45 minute classes are going to end up being a lot more than that. That's what I've heard. I have no reason to doubt these teachers since I remember my teachers often having to bring home boxes of tests to check or watching kiddies in the playground during the break or lunch hour. Then there's some of the other after-hours crap they have to do.
I wouldn't mind teaching in Canada. I'm just saying it's a little amusing to hear about the guy who preaches a strict contract adherence going to Canada where it's going to be more than just teaching. |
As a ex-teacher in Canada and someone whose parents are retired teachers I find myself in complete agreement with this.
Probably the first time we've agreed on something.  |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| you're not one to want to work one second more than contracted. That's just not going to happen in Canada. Those 7-45 minute classes are going to end up being a lot more than that. That's what I've heard. I have no reason to doubt these teachers since I remember my teachers often having to bring home boxes of tests to check or watching kiddies in the playground during the break or lunch hour. Then there's some of the other after-hours crap they have to do. |
I dont mind putting in a few extra hours here and there. The pay here in Canada certainly warrants putting in a little more.....i'm also not paid by the classroom hour! I teach foods mainly so my marking is simply seeing if the product turned out proper, whether cleanup was done, and whether safety procedures were followed. Not quite the paperload that an English teacher or math teacher has.
I have hallway supervision everyday for fifteen minutes. Everyday I have a prep class. I have a budget for supplies for my classes and the support of administration. So far(1 week) its been a hell of alot better than my stint in Korea.....but talk to me in 6 months and we'll see what tune i'm singing then |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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In response to Van,
If they have been good to you then why not help them??
People here keep saying suckers work for free,etc...
I am not saying be push-over but you don't have to be a mercenary as well...
I am sure over time(being what 3 years) that you have built up the goodwill that you have no problem in helping your employer.
Getting a new teacher is no big hassle, just put the word out where you live and if your job is decent i am sure there will be someone... |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Grotto, glad to hear you have a good job. Sounds like you are up north. Must be weird going from teaching in Korea to teaching in Canada. But I understand you were trained to be a teacher before you came to Korea. So are now in your element. Northern Canadian nature. Have you got a skidoo yet?
V.I., I can't believe you're leaving. Man, you've been on Dave's here for years. I got chronic tendonitis in my foot three weeks ago which is really a pisser so I can understand being sick and having to change strategies (like being less active for a spell).
Like J.Because says I'd do what you can to help them but you're sick, right? And are supposed to take it easy and not overdo it.
Anyway I'd like to say goodbye and thanks for all the posts. Good luck, too. |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Probably the first time we've agreed on something. |
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must lie down. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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V.I., I can't believe you're leaving. Man, you've been on Dave's here for years. I got chronic tendonitis in my foot three weeks ago which is really a pisser so I can understand being sick and having to change strategies (like being less active for a spell).
Like J.Because says I'd do what you can to help them but you're sick, right? And are supposed to take it easy and not overdo it.
Anyway I'd like to say goodbye and thanks for all the posts. Good luck, too. |
Thanks  I enjoyed caretaking Hammy the hamster. Thanks for that too. |
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