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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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Dulouz, go back into your hole...
How could you possibly live here with all the asians suurounding you... |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:52 am Post subject: Re: The negatives about interracial relationships |
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| dulouz wrote: |
In the US, a Black men marry White women 2.5 times more often than Black women.
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this is FALSE. are you saying that collectively black guys marry 2.5 white girls for every black girl they marry? WRONG. false false false. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:07 am Post subject: Re: The negatives about interracial relationships |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| dulouz wrote: |
In the US, a Black men marry White women 2.5 times more often than Black women.
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this is FALSE. are you saying that collectively black guys marry 2.5 white girls for every black girl they marry? WRONG. false false false. |
Actually he`s saying that black men marry white women 2.5 times more often than black women marry white women! 
He should say "Black men marry white women 2.5 times more often than they marry black women.
Carry on!  |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| I suppose the least the detractors could do is engage and discuss. Nah! Why bother, right? |
If I thought the OP was a sincere post, I would have engaged. But this poster has shown over and over that the least if his intentions is a solid debate. |
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Xerxes
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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My, my, Dear Mr. Dolouz,
Do you realize that people have been killed for even displaying your avatar's likeness in public media? Are you an idiot sociopath? Dude, get rid of your avatar and grow a brain and some sense! You bring the term troll to a whole new level of idiocy! You are a danger to yourself and to all on this forum! |
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guangho
Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I almost married two black women.
Not at the same time. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| anyway wrote: |
| I suppose the least the detractors could do is engage and discuss. Nah! Why bother, right? |
If I thought the OP was a sincere post, I would have engaged. But this poster has shown over and over that the least if his intentions is a solid debate. |
actually I think he does want to discuss- that's the odd thing. He seems to have really thought through what he believes and has logical arguments for them.
I massively disagree with all of his views on race, but you can't just dismiss him as a troll. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Swiss James wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| anyway wrote: |
| I suppose the least the detractors could do is engage and discuss. Nah! Why bother, right? |
If I thought the OP was a sincere post, I would have engaged. But this poster has shown over and over that the least if his intentions is a solid debate. |
actually I think he does want to discuss- that's the odd thing. He seems to have really thought through what he believes and has logical arguments for them.
I massively disagree with all of his views on race, but you can't just dismiss him as a troll. |
He is a racist and as such he can be dismissed. racists are pathetic, sick individuals. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Swiss James wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| anyway wrote: |
| I suppose the least the detractors could do is engage and discuss. Nah! Why bother, right? |
If I thought the OP was a sincere post, I would have engaged. But this poster has shown over and over that the least if his intentions is a solid debate. |
actually I think he does want to discuss- that's the odd thing. He seems to have really thought through what he believes and has logical arguments for them.
I massively disagree with all of his views on race, but you can't just dismiss him as a troll. |
He is a racist and as such he can be dismissed. racists are pathetic, sick individuals. |
I totally agree with the second bit, but the first bit is very dangerous. Never dismiss people like that. That is why we had a second world war. Ignoring or dismissing people like that will almost always come back to bite you. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| Swiss James wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| anyway wrote: |
| I suppose the least the detractors could do is engage and discuss. Nah! Why bother, right? |
If I thought the OP was a sincere post, I would have engaged. But this poster has shown over and over that the least if his intentions is a solid debate. |
actually I think he does want to discuss- that's the odd thing. He seems to have really thought through what he believes and has logical arguments for them.
I massively disagree with all of his views on race, but you can't just dismiss him as a troll. |
He is a racist and as such he can be dismissed. racists are pathetic, sick individuals. |
I totally agree with the second bit, but the first bit is very dangerous. Never dismiss people like that. That is why we had a second world war. Ignoring or dismissing people like that will almost always come back to bite you. |
I guess if Hitler was assassinated in 1933 the way he should have been here wouldnt have been a war. Are advocating that we assassinate Doulouz? How much would you fork over? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I guess if Hitler was assassinated in 1933 the way he should have been here wouldnt have been a war. Are advocating that we assassinate Doulouz? How much would you fork over? |
 That won't (and wouldn't have) help(ed) either. You have to show the world how crazy they are, or someone will just take his place. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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For those of you that think English people are unattractive, I have 4 words: Jude Law; Kate Moss. 
In regards to black men with white women, my dad (who has done a lot of male gender studies- think of the Iron John phenomenon) he said black men exist in a matriarchal black culture within a fairly patriarchal American culture (as an example). This is hard for some of them to reconcile, and some of them choose to marry outside of their race in order to escape a matriarchal culture. Read the lyrics to "We are Family" by Sister Sledge:
We are family
I got all my sisters with me
We are family
Get up ev'rybody and sing
Ev'ryone can see we're together
As we walk on by
(FLY!) and we fly just like birds of a feather
I won't tell no lie
(ALL!) all of the people around us they say
Can they be that close
Just let me state for the record
We're giving love in a family dose
Anyway, there is no mention of a man in the lyrics, and the songs hints that a man is not needed in a happy family. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: |
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A good mix of genes makes for very beautiful people, whereas a small genepool makes for f-ing ugly people. I'm very surprised Koreans are so good-looking because Korea's so homogenous genetically. I was expecting Koreans to be bloody ugly as a result but that's TOTALLY not the case. They may be an exception, because I've seen highly inbred communities in England, Wales, elsewhere in Europe and in the USA and the people are so god damn ugly it's unbelievable. I'm English, so it pains me to say this, but the English (not all of them obviously) are the most inbred race I've ever seen. Many people in England - because of CLASS - are still to this day totally unable and unwilling to form even the most basic social relations outside their own immediate social class, peer group, perhaps even family in extreme cases (let alone race). They're the lowest form of human life in my opinion. Yes, I'm pro-inter-racial breeding, big time. |
I agree -The English are basically an Island race- and generally fairly ugly (sory spin).. but they are hardly inbred: England was subject to many invasions and cross cultural mixing from the days of empire and earlier. I agree there are a lot of uptight snobby types in Pomland that are totally unable to relate to anyone from outside their social group except in a condescending sort of way.
Yet they are still wretchedly ugly.
Not sure about the whole inbreeding concept! "Purity" produces as much beauty in my mind as does genetic mixing. Think of Koreans..Scandinavians..Thais...Cambodians, Laoatians, vietnamese..etc all quite "inbred" in the sense that their ancestry has been untouched for many many generations.. yet attractive.
-then you have Brazillians who are a glorious mixture- some of thebest lookers out there.
My own theory is that it is simply a result of "evolution". Certain societies favor certain characteristics, others have a physical appearance suited to their environment..and so on.
So..if anyone can fill me in..Does racial mixing necessarily produce a super race of good looking people??Not sure it does.. |
That was a really good post.
I can only assume that the beautiful populations of Korea and other homogenous-yet-beautiful races had beautiful characteristics from the beginning and these features dominate the genepool, whereas poor England had a lot of ugly people - hardly surprising considering we're a mixture of the Celts, the Germans and the Normans - and these charcteristics perpetuate that race in a similar fashion. This is also in line with Evolutionary theory because Darwinism states that purely random variations occur at first and the features of those creatures best endowed for survival dominate the race. So Korea, randomly, got lucky, whereas England didn't. A look at English package holidaymakers in Spanish resorts, or a walk through any English town or city, will confirm as much. For every goodlooking guy or girl you see, you'll see 20 freakish specimens of botched genetics. I differ of course because I have splendidly mixed stock - English, Irish and Spanish - hence my very beautiful features.
I disagree with your point about England being of mixed stock thanks to invasions and Empire. The last invasion of England was in the 11th Century. There were other attacks on England since but I doubt these attacks affected the genepool significantly. The British Empire also wasn't terribly liberal when it came to relationships. The Empire was the British upper classes lording it over 'inferior', uncivilized foreign peoples, killing them, enslaving them and taking their land. I'm not saying no-one had it off with a beautful Indian woman or two - and who could blame them? - but the suggestion that this affected the wider British genepool is absurd.
England, and the rest of Britain, has for many centuries been a totally, vigorously classist society that viewed all foreigners has inferior who either wanted to invade us (the Catholics, the French, the Spanish, the Germans, even the Irish and the Scots) or who ought to be plundered for profit (India, North America, Australasia, Africa). It was an elitist society based on hereditary privilege. Classes barely mixed with one another. Karl Marx's observations that gave rise to the Communist Manifesto were based in no small part on Manchester, London and Liverpool. Have you ever seen any TV or read books about Britain/England in the 1950s? It wasn't a mixed society, to say the least. Someone from an upper or middle class background at Oxford University dating someone whose parents ran a butchers' shop or worked in factories would've been scarce. These features of our society exist to this day. The fact that we still have both a monarchy (only Prince William being goodlooking) and hoards of violent, hate-fuelled yobs (who of course are all of the lower class) on our city streets at this point is all the evidence you need. After centuries of this, you've a narrow bunch of genepools barely coming into contact with one another. Only since the 1960s has a middle class emerged that tolerates inter-class breeding and marriage. My view is that class makes for ugly people, since classes of people are smaller genepools than entire races. |
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Antmore
Joined: 15 Sep 2004
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I would agree with SPINOZA about the homogeneity of the British people. The Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans and other incomers were not numerically significant at the time, though their presence was hugely influential on our history, society and culture.
Recent research seems to back this up:
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Despite invasions by Saxons, Romans, Vikings, Normans, and others, the genetic makeup of today's white Britons is much the same as it was 12,000 ago, a new book claims.
In The Tribes of Britain, archaeologist David Miles says around 80 percent of the genetic characteristics of most white Britons have been passed down from a few thousand Ice Age hunters. |
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0719_050719_britishgene.html
As for the aesthetics, I guess that's up to personal taste! |
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guangho
Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| periwinkle wrote: |
In regards to black men with white women, my dad (who has done a lot of male gender studies- think of the Iron John phenomenon) he said black men exist in a matriarchal black culture within a fairly patriarchal American culture (as an example). This is hard for some of them to reconcile, and some of them choose to marry outside of their race in order to escape a matriarchal culture. Read the lyrics to "We are Family" by Sister Sledge:
We are family
I got all my sisters with me
We are family
Get up ev'rybody and sing
Ev'ryone can see we're together
As we walk on by
(FLY!) and we fly just like birds of a feather
I won't tell no lie
(ALL!) all of the people around us they say
Can they be that close
Just let me state for the record
We're giving love in a family dose
Anyway, there is no mention of a man in the lyrics, and the songs hints that a man is not needed in a happy family. |
That's sort of a chicken-egg thing. Black men in the U.S. (and other men generally) tend to abandon their children or cheat on their wives. (Assuming there is even a marriage to begin with.) Thus, they are scorned as unreliable and somewhat unneeded. Did they abandon women as a reaction to that scorn or are they scorned because they abandoned the women in their lives? |
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